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I admit when I’m wrong all the time. I just admitted I was wrong in the lore forums because I misremebered something. But I’m not wrong about anything in this thread though besides misreading something.
Not the faintest clue what you’re talking about.
but they didn’t quit because they were bored.
they didn’t quit because of anything to do with the game.
in fact, as far as i know, they didn’t quit at all.
they were just wanting to spend more time with their wife, who prefers to play other games.
at this point, I’m convinced you are the same dude from that other thread.
you argue in exactly the same manner.
If they’re playing DF… and don’t want to play anymore… that means they’re bored of DF. That means that DF didn’t do their job of exciting them for a new expansion. Just because they don’t consciously realize the reason they’re quitting the game is bcuz the game is boring to them, doesn’t mean it’s not the game’s fault…
If that person tried DF, and still wanted to quit, that directly means they quit because DF wasn’t exciting enough to keep them entertained. Whatever other things you throw into the equation that fact still remains.
If people play your game and say “It’s a good game but it’s just not for me and I don’t feel like playing it” then that means the game wasn’t good enough to keep them entertained. That is NOT a good way for gamers to feel about your game.
if someone doesn’t have the time to dedicate to a hobby, it doesn’t mean they’re bored… it means they’re a human who knows how to prioritize things in their real life, in order to keep the balance.
Or it means that the game didn’t grab their interest as much so they went to go entertain themselves in other ways.
i LOVE to eat KFC.
by your reasoning, just because i can’t eat it for every meal, it means i don’t love it? 
Someone wanting to spend quality time with their significant other, doesn’t mean they’ve lost interest in the game… it just means they value their relationship.
maybe you’ll understand this sort of stuff when you’re old enough. 
Except they said they’re quitting. Which would be like you discontinuing eating KFC for a few years or even forever. But saying “Oh it’s not KFC’s fault… it’s me I changed.” Directly after KFC revamped their menu and changed everything about everything they serve.
If you told your SO “I want to take a break from you for a year” does that mean you still love your SO and want to be with them? No, clearly you find something about them undesirable and want to be away from them. If you have been playing a game for years and then a new expac comes out and all of a sudden you decide you don’t want to play that game anymore… CLEARLY the new expansion has SOMETHING to do with it. At the very least it didn’t create an entertaining enough experience to keep you from quitting.
Maybe when you grow a few more brain cells you’ll understand simple logic.
pretty sure they said they were thinking about it.
and in context, “quitting” doesn’t actually mean “quitting”… it means “taking a break”.
their account would still be waiting for them.
game is re-invented with every expansion.
they said they didn’t have a problem with the expansion.
if KFC revamped their menu two weeks after I’d had a massive heart attack, i’m not going to start shoving it in my gob to fight the system (or something?) I’d stop eating it so I don’t die.
this is a game, not a relationship.
it’s not a life commitment.
it’s kind of scary if you view the game this way.
either you’ve never had a relationship, or you’re straight-up hardcore addicted to a game.
it’s ok for people to walk away… at any time, for any reason.
last year i stopped playing for 12 months to renovate and repair my new house.
i didn’t do it because the game was bad.
i didn’t do it because i didn’t want to play.
i did it because i wanted to exist comfortably in the real world.
pixels had to wait.
Move the goalposts all you want, they’re still deciding to stop playing WoW for a long period of time directly after, DF is released.
Them quitting clearly indicates otherwise.
Nice emotional, insulting bs of a statement. You’re the one who brought relationships into this I just tried to use an example you could understand. You’re just trying to insult me underhandedly by implying that I view playing WoW in the same way I view having relationships with other human beings, which is clearly insane.
I stopped playing for several months after WoD came out because it was a horrible expansion.
And during that time that you were renovating your house you clearly had some downtime where you watched tv or whatever other entertainment/hobbies, you enjoy. If WoW wasn’t one of them at the time, then clearly that expansion of WoW did not keep your interests well enough.
you still going?
no goalposts have been moved.
at all.
deciding, no. Considering.
long time? nope. No time frame was mentioned.
taking a break is not “quitting”.
no, the poster you’re referencing did that.
they want to spend time with their partner.
what’s insane, is making the claims you’re making, then making a huge fuss about someone wanting to spend time with their partner.
no.
i didn’t.
there was no time for recreation.
we were in lockdown for the majority of the time.
it was work, sleep, repeat… until i had no skin left on my hands.
i didn’t have internet for months, so i couldn’t play even if i wanted to.
…and even if i had internet, and had time to sit around and do nothing, i still wouldn’t have dedicated any time to gaming, because the amount of time i would have been able to play wouldn’t have been worth the sub fee.
again, it’s a game.
something which SHOULDN’T be a priority in peoples lives… unless their livelihood depends on it.
Moves goalposts “No goalposts have been moved”
Are you actually trying to disprove me saying “a long period of time.” Do you actually not understand that my definition of a long period of time could literally mean anything? How about you actually put effort into your responses?
Unsubscribing is quitting no matter how you spin it, cow.
Because that’s literally not what’s happening and you’re just an emotional, hysterical, ideologue, who makes up for his lack of logical arguments with refusal to stop trying to ply your underhanded insults. If you can’t stop yourself from trying to make insulting conclusions about my character that really kinda proves your argument is falling apart doesn’t it?
Yeah because you never ate or watched tv or read a book or looked at your phone. Imagine lying this blatantly obviously just to win an argument on the internet. If you actually are going to pretend you had zero down-time then you’re either delusional or a liar.
Humans want to work hard so they can make enough money so they can retire early so they can devote all their time to their hobbies. Hobbies are what most people want to do more than anything else in life, including productive hobbies. Gaming is a hobby. It’s no worse than wanting to make music or art. If you decide to do something else with your free time, then your hobby, clearly, no longer interests you at the time.
If you play WoW for years and decide that WoW no longer interests you and you decide to play something else for a long period of time (inb4 you try to tell me it’s not a long period of time again), then that is because that version of WoW does not currently interest you. ANY time you decide to stop playing a game and do other things instead, especially when new content just came out, it means that the content of the game isn’t interesting enough for it to be worth your time anymore.
Also, I’m sure you realize, that as time goes by I can find more and more threads about people quitting over DF. So idk why you’re making this your hill to die on, because that hill is crumbling quickly.
For example: All IRL's already quit DF
Inb4 “Oh they’re lying” or “That doesn’t count because they didn’t say THEY quit” or “Oh it’s sarcasm/a bot post”
Also it took me less than 10 seconds to find that
which goalposts were moved?
No.
I’m stating that the poster you’re referencing didn’t mention a time frame.
But sure, make it about you if you need to. 
unsubscribing is simply removing your credit card details.
i unsubscribed, and still have 11 months of game time which i intend to use.
my argument isn’t falling apart.
i’ve spent days attempting to explain that you completely misunderstood a post which someone made.
no matter how many times i explain, you continue to say silly things which amount to: “NO NO NO! THEY CLEARLY MEANT THIS OTHER THING WHICH I NEED THEM TO HAVE MEANT!!”
of course i ate.
i don’t watch tv, my eyes are too stuffed for reading, and my phone only does calls and texts. i have no reason to “look” at it.
i listened to music, and kept busy.
3 bedrooms, a bathroom and wc, a laundry, a hallway, lounge, kitchen, dining, exterior with carport, shed, and 3 sections of yard… all which needed a lot of love and attention.
most people probably would have stretched it out over a few years, i wanted it done asap.
that’s just not how the world works.
you have such a simplistic view of things.
if someone has a new baby, they’d probably prefer to nap during their free time.
it doesn’t mean they don’t want to play games, it just means that they need sleep in order to function.
again, it seems like a pretty obvious troll post.
basic indicators:
“No one is saying they’re going to quit over DF”
“They’re only THINKING about quitting! That doesn’t count!”
“They’re only quitting for A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME… so that’s just a break! So not quitting!”
This is literally a textbook example of moving goalposts. But let’s pretend that you didn’t move the goalposts… (which you did) YOU STILL LOSE. Because there’s MANY new posts about quitting since the the time you started this uphill battle of “No one is quitting over DF” Like you HAVE to know that that’s a stupid statement… and yet you refuse to stop pretending that it isn’t and that I SOMEHOW can’t find a single person that is quitting over DF. Like… do you ACTUALLY think you should keep sitting here telling me that no one is quitting over DF/no one is making forum posts about it? YOU KNOW THEY ARE… so WHY are you choosing to die on this stupid hill?
And cut it out with going further and further down this ridiculous tangent of “well I’m not moving goalposts. Well TECHNICALLY that’s not ‘moving goalposts’” You’re just wasting time on a nonsensical meta-argument so you can distract from the fact that CLEARLY many people are quitting over DF, as with ANY EXPANSION. It’s like you think that I’m trying to prove that DF is a bad expansion because people quit over it. No. You just made the completely insane proposition that “You can’t find a single post about anyone quitting over DF”
“I’m going to keep nitpicking over details and technicality forcing you to restate your sentence even though I clearly knew what you meant. BUT THAT ISN’T WHAT YOU SAID… exactly, so I’m gonna pretend that I have no idea what you actually meant and harp on technicalities instead.”
I’m not playing this moronic game with you.
More of your hysterical game where you pretend that I can’t find posts about people quitting over DF. Refer to this:
Or do you need me to find even MORE of them. Literally every day this completely irrational argument continues, more people quit and more people make posts about why they’re quitting. I can compile a list of them already, but I choose not to be petty and make large lists of something ANY RATIONAL PERSON knows already exists. But if you’re going to keep insisting that I can’t find them. I’LL DO IT AGAIN. And this time without any moronic sarcastic “bot-written” posts, because I’ve already found so many authentic quitting posts. You can save yourself the embarrassment and look them up yourself or you can keep pretending like I’m delusional and can’t find them.
oh boy.
no, none of it is moving goalposts.
it’s showing how you twisted the words of what the poster was saying.
what am i losing?
heh yeah.
more troll posts.
…like the one from that dude who is “quitting”, but doesn’t own the expansion?
yeah… i’m sure DF is making them quit 
(probably one of your alts) 
you invented the game.
the last time you attempted to “compile a list”, it backfired horribly… which is why you decided to start this ridiculous back-and-forth.
you were embarrassed because you only read the titles, and had no idea you were being trolled by the “quit” threads.
sure you have.
no, it’s more fun watching you desperately try to read between the lines, and pretend that someone saying something like “i didn’t get the loot i wanted this week” is a quitting thread.
so sure, keep 'em coming it’s funny watching you streeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch
took some time out of my day to show you what “quitting” looks like.
feb 2021:
(check the character level of the “quitter”)
march 2021:
…they “quit” with that character, and reached 70 with a different one according to their stats.
july 2021:
“I won’t spend another dime on this game”
(i guess they used tokens to buy the expansion + game time so they could get to 70) 
…sooooo yeah.
this is what “i quit” looks like 
8-9 yr necro? Bravo.
/mute
Sep 13 2022
not
Sep 2013
(don’t worry, i’ve made the same mistake before) 
Yep, I’m back and if anyone didn’t follow the link to the original post to read the whole thing, let me add:
Will I slip, more than likely. Once they announce Classic TBC, it’s off to classic to horde ores for jewelcrafting and finish off that toon with Alchemy. Rolling in the cash with just those two professions.
I kept my word. I quit SL. I didn’t touch SL since posting that and I played the hell out of Classic TBC and WotLK, both rolling in the cash. haha.
Actually, let me confess that I did log into SL a few times but only because the damn launcher started putting SL as the default so I would get as far as the splash screen and quickly exit.
I came back to retail and I am having a blast. While DF’s crafting system makes me want to drink again, this is miles better than that SL snorefest.
So…what’s your point?
hi!
haven’t noticed you around… you were probably stealthing.
i hope you had a little more luck with the alcohol.
my point was to this undead dude… that just because someone says they quit, doesn’t mean they’re having their accounts deleted.
“quit” in wow, doesn’t mean the same thing as “quit” in real world circumstances.
i’m glad you’re having fun.
i’m finding that i’ve got so much to do, i’ve been overlooking my standard mog/mount farm runs 
They are literally quitting so you saying “Oh well they’re not quitting because x they’re quitting because y” is moving the goalposts. THAT IS WHAT MOVING THE GOALPOSTS MEANS
The insane argument you tried to pose of “Absolutely no one is quitting over DF” You lose the argument. You lost. Admit it and pack up.
It’s amazing to me that you actually think this isn’t moving the goalposts.
“100% of all forum posts saying they’re quitting are troll posts and aren’t actually quitting. Absolutely no one is quitting over DF”
“Absolutely no one is quitting over DF”
Let’s focus on this for a second… DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT? Because if so then you’re insane or intentionally lying to win an argument on the internet. YOU KNOW people have quit because of DF. It happens LITERALLY EVERY EXPANSION.
Answer the question if you actually believe zero people have quit over DF. Answer that question or I’m gonna keep repeating it until you rage quit this thread and ignore me. I refuse to continue playing this moronic game where you make insane arguments and then pretend that you actually think something different.
And once you answer the ONLY rational answer of “no ofc I don’t believe zero people have quit over DF” then we can move on knowing that I was right and you were wrong. I literally told you from the very first time you brought up this ridiculous hill to die on of “there’s zero posts of people quitting over DF on the forums” that it was a hilariously irrational tangent to go down and for a second you agreed… AND THEN YOU DUG YOUR HEELS IN AND STUCK BY IT ANYWAYS.
Answer that question or stop wasting my time.