It will be very unlikly blizz will ever listen but this 2-4 minute games are gona grow stale as no actual pvp engagment/objectives is done.
Im supprised no one is really pushing this topic after the npc hp/damage nerfing adjustments as it fell off being posted as much.
Can we someday (most likly never 
) have the npcs feel powerful like they were pre-nerf it stopped this rush meta crap and can we have the gladators that gaurd the 2 bases in Ashran actually have stealth/invis detection and ignore the Kowalski’s Music Box (reduced aggro range) toy.
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I agree that the more people covering the same issue the better, increasing the exposure. Just pointing out that a few other threads are covering the same issue both here and in the General Discussion. There is another one raised only yesterday. It’s good to know many feel the same about this problem.
Agree, and I like your idea about giving Glads stealth/invis detection!
[Edit] Question for everyone:
If your pug team insist on rushing Boss, would you go?
Isn’t 2-3mins good for people trying to gear? Maybe it’s just me but i like epic being a good place for undergeared players to gear and normal being for pvp
gearing up for pvp by not pvping? i cant stand people who join bgs just for the rewards because they dont mind losing while they collect welfare honor/xp.
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Yeah and I would rather those people stay in epic bgs lol. So my point still stands
Stop AV zerg: cap snowfall and defend, engage in mid.
Stop ashran zerg: get town portal and leave a defense squad. Make the AF turn in NPCs immortal.
It’s always a team choice to make “epics” a PvE race, but there’s not much a lone player can do to force the PvP engagement.
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it maybe a choice of either but highly % of the matches are just the rushing cause of the bosses having like 1/5-1/7 of a raid boss hp is pathetic when we are all end hero/myth pve ilvl in pvp see where the snowballing goes on?
It was funny, one time we had like 5-8 on defense and wiped them. We then got “yelled” at because our side was rushing too and all the ones we killed had rezzed and wiped our team.
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My Meta is zerg the enemy team 1v20.
I will cause a turtle, that is my only goal.
Even if I slow them only for 0.5 sec…