I went down there once… I dont know how to describe it… but it was offputting, I felt uncomfortable down there. Claustrophobic maybe? Even though Im not really in real life… anyways I left and have not gone back.
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And I thought it was only the forbidden reach that had this… reading this makes me feel better.
I still like to go to the other zones for random reasons. ZC and FR, never.
Same on Dath’Remar I haven’t been over to that zone since the caverns opened up,
Not gonna Lie this whole zone seemed to be intentionally hard by design. The layout over all is not bad beside the area south and west of the main Hub.But my main issue the difficulty not just from my perspective I onlygo there on my 415 Prot warrior and avoid any rares who have the broken Ablility to basically drop my armor etc that low I eventually am 1 Shotted,That is 1 major flaw mainly due to Rarespawns in other Expansions Elite or base rare They somewhat needed a group early on in that patch but even players who out gear me still Die or Nearly die when I call out rares or if I am doing the elite area word quests. Now lets focus the Elite area they add to every patch which Honestly in my almost 11 years or so playing I have yet to go to said areas like this for Example in Timeless Isle once I got my Legendary cloak Farming mobs in and around Ordos was no small feat but way way more doable than what the Djaradin have to offer.One of them even places down 4 godmode totems (Easy to kill just a bad mechanic imo) Mobs who carry those cauldrons on there back having a damage return buff which makes me kill mysel more than them doing the actual damage.I could example more but we all know how bad it is which leads me to believe as I stated in the beginning Blizzard made this intentionally Hard to force players to group (I honestly don’t care if that is the case I am a mostly solo grinder this has no effect on my gameplay just so you know).And now days finding a group outside of the world boss is quite rare I have gone back to Forbidden reach for the weekly a few times and Honestly that place is popping off and I on Oceanic btw with a super low population across our realms compared to the rest of you.
Hopefully when we finally get this patch that lets us fix or kill Nozdormu/Murozond the new area’s once we get whatever raid or open world gear wont be as insane on the difficulty side of things.
Oh one last thing Why are the Crests even in the game along with them being used to upgrade gear to 8/8 I Abhore that sytem for loot and I wish they just scrapped it.Or if they want to keep something that inane and basic they just need to let people earn Valor points from all forms of content and not restrict it to Mythic + gear (Dumbest Idea ever don’t even argue with me Mythic + I don’t like never will and wish was never created).Bring back gear with just Item level and Proc chance for a tertiary stat like speed etc and the occasional socket. Same for Quest rewards Proc epic/rare with same chance to get the other properties.When we got a gear system like that it was 1000x easier to get what you needed where you had to go etc and was a better way to do itover the well lets just say garbage currently Drowning in Crests etc I cant even upgrade my Crafted weapon due to it being locked behind more crests and I detest having to do Raiding as much as i detest Mythic +. And LFR now has NEED and Need due to greed rolls being next to on existent.Another system that only works for Normal>Mythic raiding It does not belong in an already toxic Raiding difficulty. But as most of you who view the game in a somewhat similar fashion we know nothing will ever change until the current In charge people get either replaced or forced to stop mucking up the game and costing them profit. This is why Tier 3 came back basically as a scam to take more money from people to buy tokens to get a whole set.Let alone spend upwards of a year in Naxxramas Scholomance old version and Stratholme. They even limited the currency those places drop to 1 pers boss which is laughable. Invader Scourgestones need to drop from all elites in the raid and Raid bosses need to drop 1-3 of green tokens Drop the Phylacterweave amount needed or the gold price down to around 250-500 and maybe you would actually get people to do the leg work rather than fork out around 1500-1800$ on wow tokens just to have 25.2+ million gold to get all 9 sets. If you think otherwise and or have any sympathy fo the Whales who ruined Tier 3 for us and Yes it was them since the very very small amount of people who cleared naxxramas and got 1 or more sets would not have made the end decision this pathetic. When he said “Players spent millions of gold and years camping the Auction house that never should of even existed deserve to have the rest of you do the same because well that’s fair right” No what would of been fair is to make those who wasted there gold regret doing it and Put all Tier 3 sets into one set and place one of those sets on the Trading post @ random and make it cost 5-10k of the currency so then they would have to sacrifice not having the other cosmetics and mounts until they paid off the Tier 3 they so desperately want, ( I honestly detest Tier 3 outside of the Warlock set the rest are sub par and get dominated by Tier 1 and Tier 2 and some of the AQ sets trump them also.) So Tier 3 being this godlike status symbol to me is a joke since Naxxramas and ZA/ZG also being removed is by far the worse decision they have made (I know it was a different tem don’t @ me).But now This Tier 3 compounding with 10.1/10.15 seems to have made Dragonflight die off by a huge margain. Rant over.
Reply/Qoute/Debate/Criticize I do look forward to shutting you down. 
Too. Many. Words.
Luckily skimming is one of my minor stats.
Yes. Rares/Elites at a current spot in the game are intended to be played in a group. This is true.
That would be why they are in the game. I like gear upgrade currencies. It’s an option for people like myself who do not raid or do M+. It lets us participate and improve our characters. Its quite transient because the game is constantly moving on but while it works, it works.
Which is not all that different from Crests, is it? It’s just another form of upgrading gear aside from it dropping in raids and/or M+?
Oh and I generally agree with you, the whole Naxx gear thing is bad.
You cannot shut me down, I am unshuttable. 
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Same thing happened with Korthia and breaking shore. It’s just what patches are like.
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Killing world boss and rares just isn’t fun. I have only ever done this content because it offered some kind of upgrade like the ring from season 1 but I didn’t enjoy killing world bosses or rares.
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u guys have cellphones, dont u?
Whats funny is that this is the latest and current content zone…and no one is using it. Has this ever happened before and has it ever happened within two weeks of releasing it?
Not to this extent but again, we have the problem of content.
I have this vague idea that something else was supposed to be going on in there and they canned whatever it was. Comments on the hotfix of July 6 said:
" * Developers’ notes: Unlike Forbidden Reach, the rare elites in Zaralek Cavern are meant to be a bonus, rather than the primary activity."
It was never explained wht the ‘primary activity’ was. Surely not the world boss fight which is a once a week thing for a character - it would be totally illogical to assume that something which required a player to only be there once a week was the main draw of a zone. If it isn’t ‘rare elites’ as they said, and it isnt the main mob fight, then what? Surely not running around earning reputation with a sort of mini-faction we aren’t like to see again?
If you look back at, say, Timeless Isle there were multiple activities including:
The set of mini-boss fights in the central arena and Ordos up the top level
Around 30 Rare spawns and events, one of which dropped a beautiful serpent mount
Gear tokens
Vanity items along with battle pets, some of which are still valuable
Timeless coins which could be used to purchase various useful items
A special battle pet event
A special PvP activity that award Bloody Coins
Quests and special difficult rare figthts
etc
Timeless Isle was active and popular for months, I doubt Zaralek Cavern will have the same sort of life expectancy.
Its funny because it appears blizz recently made it so that when you are within close range of a rare, a WQ style auto-lfg eye icon becomes available. Just like with the elite wqs. Of course the problem with that is that it’s too little too late. Too late they realize the vast majority of the playerbase will never bother to manually listing a custom group for a rare. Plus they still haven’t re-scaled all the rares to be solo killable by non-cheese classes.
Thankfully I managed to acquire basically everything I wanted (before blizz heavily nerfed the manuscript drop rates) except for the toy off Invoq. Eventually gave up on that toy due to the sub-1% drop rate (wowhead drop rate is incorrect). Might resume farming it once Invoq is actually killable in 10.2.5 or 11.0.
It’s sad seeing the Caverns and Reach empty. Cannot even do most content there now as no ones there and the zone wasn’t balanced well for solo play.
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Thats an addon, not stock Blizzard UI.
Wait. It is? It wasn’t there before. I wonder which of my add-ons updated to do it.
I forget which, maybe world quest tracker addon
I don’t use that addon anymore. Replaced it with Angry WQs. I’ll do some testing when I get back online and update you.
Edit: I have now confirmed that it is NOT an addon. It IS part of the default UI.
more then dead super dead
Good, I like not having to waste my life in zones like that for months, much like nazjatar
It is for a little bit… but then… edit: Well seems to be a bit lively on Tuesday… but then… only the required stuff.
As an addon: I really don’t like this ‘underground’ stuff… it is kind of oppressive to me. Prefer to be above ground, and I have a friend who HATES… underwater stuff, this is kind of like that too. Just a preference … but what do they call that now ‘racist’ or something. You don’t get no preferences! You will eat Z bugs! You will be happy!.. Oh wait I am getting off subject . SORRY…