Zandalari Troll Paladins are an Abomination

Troll lore is irrelevant in this discussion. Paladin lore is defined by Uther and the Knights of the Silver Hand. Unless the Zandalari are holding the ghost of Uther captive in one of their undead temples, there is no connection between trolls, Paladins and the light.

So you say trolls are necromancers in lore and try to prove them to be unworthy of using the Light but when it’s proven via 15 year old lore that they actively are anti necromancy, all of a sudden you’re no longer interested in the lore?

That’s very convenient for your argument. The last time paladin lore was limited to the knights of the silver hand was vanilla. The burning Crusade introduced Vindiators who have no tie to the knights of the silver hand and predate them by like 25,000 years as well as Blood Knights who were a separate paladin order. There are also the scarlet crusaders who were an evil order of paladins as well as the argent dawn. After that, even more orders were formed like the Sunwalkers.

As for the Light, Blizzards senior writers said years ago that the Light used by Trolls, Undead, Tauren, Night Elves, Blood Elves, Draenei, and everyone else is all the same Light. You’re mistaking the Light with the church of the Holy Light. One is a source of magic which anyone is able to draw holy power from and the other is a religious organization which is central to the human priest and paladin orders. Your inability to differentiate the two shows a lack of knowledge regarding Warcraft lore.

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Also, the Light doesn’t come from Uther. He channels it via his faith, he is not a source of it. Like all Light users, they channel it via their faith and the Light doesn’t differentiate between different religions or deities so long as the one trying to channel the Light has strong enough convictions in said faith.

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You are horde, the horde is evil. The Zandalari are evil, they make the perfect horde race. The horde have been trying to claim the light since the beginning despite the fact that the only way they could do so is by kidnapping a naaru and locking it in a basement.

The horde should just accept that the are evil and that the always will be. Stop pretending that the horde, born from the legion and the scourge has any affinity for the light. Tauren Paladins are a joke, blood elf Paladins are fake and Zandalari Paladins are born of a delusional horde obsession with claiming that they are anything but implacably evil.

You’re a joke.

Holy cow, you might have a point!:stuck_out_tongue:

Where did the Tauren find the light, under a divine pile of bovine poo?

Being “evil” has never been a disqualifier for channeling the Light. The Light will answer to literally anyone with strong enough beliefs. See Sir Zeliek, one of the four horsemen within Naxxramas. Or see Arthas when he was mass murdering innocents within Stratholme. See the Scarlet Crusade. See AU Yrel and her Light Army bent on ethnic cleansing. Or Xera, a being of pure Light, attempting to enslave and bend others to her will. Or the prot pally legendary shoulders from Legion having the flavor text “The light shines brightest in those it consumes” which points to the Light actually rewarding blind zealotry above all else. Your blind faith in the light has blinded you to the reality that the Light cares not for “good” or “evil”, yet answers those who have the strongest belief in whatever it is they believe in. There is no morality tied to the Light.

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Uther and I would strongly disagree with you.

And you’re entitled to your opinion regardless of it being wrong.

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I don’t give a RIP about the lore. It’s be recanted so many times what was once true isn’t any more, and want is now considered lore will more then likely won’t be in 6 months. I just seen you ignoring my pally friend point, so I call you all on it.

We found it under our God, as you did yours.

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It’s like arguing with a brick wall, dude stopped reading lore in Warcraft III. It’s like discussing Lord of the Rings with someone who has read only the first edition Hobbit yet insists he’s an expert on the entire series.

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What’s to expect, they’re a male human paladin.

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Well you’d both be wrong, the Scarlet Crusade has been proving you wrong for 15 years. The Scarlet Crusade is objectively evil, but they believe they are the good guys, and so the Light continues to answer their call. The Light doesn’t give a damn about objective morality, it cares about subjective morality, all it cares about is if you believe your cause is righteous, regardless of whether it really is or not… That has been the lore since vanilla.

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Your “pally friend” doesn’t have a leg to stand on regarding the lore being nonexistent when he has proved throughout this entire thread that he refuses to acknowledge any and all lore not pertaining to or added to/expanded upon since 2004.

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When has he said anything like that? All he’s been asking for is a stronger story to support it.

If you had done the exiled Paladin quest chain, you would not have brought up the Scarlet Crusade.

I have, and yet I have because it’s relevant, stop trying to worm your way out of being wrong, just admit defeat and move on with your life.

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You’re right, all of these angry human paladins are starting to bleed together. I assumed you were referencing the one who is still participating in the thread. Yes, the one you were referencing is complaining about story which thus far hasn’t been completed in-game and likely will not until the loa of kings is replaced. Which is also silly, let the story unfold. Why we expect the story to have been put into the game long before the class/race ombo itself is even implemented is beyond me. Plus we’ve seen trolls using the Light since vanilla so him pretending there’s no existing lore of them doing so is also willingly ignoring existing lore.

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Was the Silver Hand ever part of the Scarlet Crusade?

The Silver Hand split into the Scarlet Crusade and the Argent Dawn, so, yes.

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