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Horde complains about not liking being forced to side with Saurfang and it gets immediately changed.
Alliance complain wanting to actually have playable content and complain about not wanting to get shafted in every skirmish and barely see any response even.
How do u know that was changed and wasn't already plan to give a choice in that situation?
The playerbase is just quick to yell wolf about everything even if its unfinished horde does it but the Alliance is 100x worse always crying horde bias for any reason they can find
This here is why Data mining needs to stop. Half of a situation is data mined and the forums blow up in response.
AS for changes with the game in response to people crying about XYZ situation. Sit back and let the designers finish a project.
11/05/2018 04:58 AMPosted by
Nakkago
11/05/2018 04:06 AMPosted by
Halodin
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That is surely why the devs, at Blizzcon, are announcing incitatives like more bonus for the players to put warmode on. That's a well known fact that the Horde have a free 10% xp in BFA so i'll let you guess why they are doing that.
But hey nice try.
Oh man I must have imagined the 120 alliance players ganking me at Drustvar as bad that I had to travel back to Orgi and turn WM off so that I could even quest.
Yes sure. My server = all servers is like one time = all the time
I didn't say there is no Alliance at all that put their warmode on. I'm talking about average and not about a single situation in time. The truth is most of the Alliance players are not puting it on and for an Alliance player, like me, it's really easy to notice it while doing WQ or questing. Horde outnumber Alliance by a big margin in PVP.
And now you will have those AI bots. Why you would need bots if everything was working as intended?
Again :
- Mercenary mode created for the Horde.
- Complains from the Horde side about not enough Alliance with warmode on.
- Complains from the Horde side about long ques in BGs.
- Bonus incitatives to put warmode on World pvp
- AI bots coming next in BGs.
- Horde/Alliance population : 55%/45%
Man some people need to wake up, seriously.
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11/05/2018 05:47 AMPosted by
Halodin
11/05/2018 04:58 AMPosted by
Nakkago
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Oh man I must have imagined the 120 alliance players ganking me at Drustvar as bad that I had to travel back to Orgi and turn WM off so that I could even quest.
Yes sure. My server = all servers is like one time = all the time
I didn't say there is no Alliance at all that put their warmode on. I'm talking about average and not about a single situation in time. The truth is most of the Alliance players are not puting it on and for an Alliance player, like me, it's really easy to notice it while doing WQ or questing. Horde outnumber Alliance by a big margin in PVP.
And now you will have those AI bots. Why you would need bots if everything was working as intended?
Again :
- Mercenary mode created for the Horde.
- Complains from the Horde side about not enough Alliance with warmode on.
- Complains from the Horde side about long ques in BGs.
- Bonus incitatives to put warmode on World pvp
- AI bots coming next in BGs.
- Horde/Alliance population : 55%/45%
Man some people need to wake up, seriously.
So basically when you said that Horde players have a free 10 percent xp bonus , you used hyperbole...
I agree there is faction imbalance but using hyperbole only undermines the case and leads to mocking .
11/03/2018 07:11 PMPosted by
Bearj
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Horde complain too. But the devs respond to them. Which is why it always looks like Alliance 'cry' longer and louder than Horde ever do. It really only ever takes one-three forums posts for Horde ptr content to change--> which is literally what happened with the Saurfang questline.
It takes the notoriety of red-shirt guy to write a insanely detailed and well argued blog post to get the Tyrande & Nathanos fight changed to be reasonable. and again, we've been complaining that Alliance was always portrayed as incompetent losers since war of the thorns.
Horde loses their leader alot they compain it doesn't change so they don't always get their way story can and has been bad on both sides...and it's not Blizz fault alliance are unorganized and play like crap...
But I'm sure people will say "but the racials" old argument move on get good at the game problem solved
Must be nice to have story where you lose your warchief. Shows they are focusing the writing for your horde. Alliance writing is lacking hard and it shows. All of a sudden Malfurion is a this bad @ss yet in Legion and the beginning of BfA he was a pansy. Instead of more story for Jaina let's just leave her out of the expansion in Legion as she leaves mad.
Must be nice to have good stories.
About the warchief story that always rise when we are talking about gameplay imbalance. If you guys really want to talk about it, well lets do it. Bad story is a bad story whatever it's Horde or Alliance.
So we have a bad story for the Horde because its MoP all over again. Believe me when i say i feel bad for the Horde players who, like me, want an original well written story and the same warchief for at least 2 xpac in a row. I feel for you Horde players at heart and lore lovers, i really mean it.
I only hope that you guys would also see the other side who are being use as a tool to promote the bad story of your faction. How you call something that have the lower end of a bad story? Yeah you know what i mean.
Another proof that the devs bias affect both factions. Those devs only see one side so if you guys are ok with it concerning gameplay, at least, don't come here to complain you're only get half of a story.
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11/05/2018 06:01 AMPosted by
Dosao
11/05/2018 05:47 AMPosted by
Halodin
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Yes sure. My server = all servers is like one time = all the time
I didn't say there is no Alliance at all that put their warmode on. I'm talking about average and not about a single situation in time. The truth is most of the Alliance players are not puting it on and for an Alliance player, like me, it's really easy to notice it while doing WQ or questing. Horde outnumber Alliance by a big margin in PVP.
And now you will have those AI bots. Why you would need bots if everything was working as intended?
Again :
- Mercenary mode created for the Horde.
- Complains from the Horde side about not enough Alliance with warmode on.
- Complains from the Horde side about long ques in BGs.
- Bonus incitatives to put warmode on World pvp
- AI bots coming next in BGs.
- Horde/Alliance population : 55%/45%
Man some people need to wake up, seriously.
So basically when you said that Horde players have a free 10 percent xp bonus , you used hyperbole...
I agree there is faction imbalance but using hyperbole only undermines the case and leads to mocking .
I don't think i'm exagerating. Blizz actions and decisions are proving this fact on an average basis. Only a small number of Alliance put their warmode on. You also have a population where you have more Horde than Alliance, and it get worst for pvp only. For me it's a free 10% xp for the Horde. I agree it's my opinion but there is no hyperbole in it and it's really easy to see with the numbers and Blizz actions to try to fix that problem.
Again :
- Mercenary mode created for the Horde.
- Complains from the Horde side about not enough Alliance with warmode on.
- Complains from the Horde side about long ques in BGs.
- Bonus incitatives to put warmode on World pvp
- AI bots coming next in BGs.
- Horde/Alliance population : 55%/45%
The truth is, on an average, Alliance is not interested anymore in PVP.
11/05/2018 06:49 AMPosted by
Halodin
11/05/2018 06:01 AMPosted by
Dosao
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So basically when you said that Horde players have a free 10 percent xp bonus , you used hyperbole...
I agree there is faction imbalance but using hyperbole only undermines the case and leads to mocking .
I don't think i'm exagerating. Blizz actions and decisions are proving this fact on an average basis. Only a small number of Alliance put their warmode on. You also have a population where you have more Horde than Alliance, and it get worst for pvp only. For me it's a free 10% xp for the Horde. I agree it's my opinion but there is no hyperbole in it and it's really easy to see with the numbers and Blizz actions to try to fix that problem.
Again :
- Mercenary mode created for the Horde.
- Complains from the Horde side about not enough Alliance with warmode on.
- Complains from the Horde side about long ques in BGs.
- Bonus incitatives to put warmode on World pvp
- AI bots coming next in BGs.
- Horde/Alliance population : 55%/45%
The truth is, on an average, Alliance is not interested anymore in PVP.
Hard to find interest in anything when the development team consistently goes out of their way to make your team the Cleveland Browns in every facet of the game.
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11/05/2018 04:23 AMPosted by
Zaluzan
Let's seey they joke about Horde changing Warchief literally once per expansion. Everyone's ok.
They joke about the Alliance and it's the Apocalypse?
Seriously guys. Learn how to take a joke!
Like really. You guys are about to raid Zandalar, kill their king, dizimate their fleet wich was the reason the Horde wanted them, your King is so perfect it's enfuriating, you have 0 inner struggle inside your ranks, you are not goons to a crazy genocidal dead elf who probably won't last until next expansion and you are according to the devs themselves WINNING the war.
And still is not enough? You are winning the war and also WHINNING about the war. Take. Your. Victory. And for once on your life, be happy about it.
Whut.jpg. Rastakhan has been on the road to death since we arrived on zandalar, the fleet was mostly powered by deus ex LOA, the king is perfect, you mean how sylvanas is and every faction leader in the horde went with burning alive thousands? or how Nathanos is the biggest bestest thing since sliced bread? The alliance has no faction conflict, what? The night Elves and Gilneans pretty much flip off the king and go themselves to try and reclaim and rescue their people, meanwhile good ol anduin is more worried about attacking zandalar (because the raid happens AFTER the darkshore events) but he couldn't provide the nelfs/gilneans with some extra troops.
Roleplayer faction tend to take ingame joke too seriously.
Blizzard said "You're welcome Alliance" because you keep complaining Alliance never win BGs, so they put a bot for you to stomp.
So its basically Blizzard addressing your concern, but ofc you decide to feel insulted instead of being thankful.
11/05/2018 07:08 AMPosted by
Eloreil
Roleplayer faction tend to take ingame joke too seriously.
Blizzard said "You're welcome Alliance" because you keep complaining Alliance never win BGs, so they put a bot for you to stomp.
So its basically Blizzard addressing your concern, but ofc you decide to feel insulted instead of being thankful.
I too tend to think changing pvp things to pve fixes the problem for I too lack understanding of videogames.
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11/05/2018 07:08 AMPosted by
Eloreil
Roleplayer faction tend to take ingame joke too seriously.
Blizzard said "You're welcome Alliance" because you keep complaining Alliance never win BGs, so they put a bot for you to stomp.
So its basically Blizzard addressing your concern, but ofc you decide to feel insulted instead of being thankful.
I mean, I doubt someone who has had their leg severed is going to thank you for putting a Band-Aid on their stump. Does nothing to stop them from being crippled and bleeding out.
11/05/2018 07:08 AMPosted by
Eloreil
Roleplayer faction tend to take ingame joke too seriously.
Blizzard said "You're welcome Alliance" because you keep complaining Alliance never win BGs, so they put a bot for you to stomp.
So its basically Blizzard addressing your concern, but ofc you decide to feel insulted instead of being thankful.
My concern, and i'm pretty sure it's the case for most of the Alliance players, is balance. With balance we can fight our way to the top. With balance we can give Horde players quality PvP. Bias bring us all down. Bots are the worst thing that can happen to PvP.
So PvP is not for Alliance anymore as the devs screwed up the faction balance so much that we need bots to make us want to PvP again. And guess what If PvP is not for the Alliance they make sure it's not for the Horde too because bots is not PvP but PvE. Alliance and Horde aren't gaining anything from this except easy wins. This ain't going to work.
Even the devs are admitting it with "You're welcome Alliance". So we should thank them for allienating half of the player base while saying "You guys are not big enough for PvP, here's a few bots, enjoy. Well f$%$ them and i mean it. Horde don't have the monopoly on the faction pride.
Alliance are complaining about imbalance and i didn't see anyone asking for easy way to win. We are asking for a fair chance to prove that we can compete and be as good as the Horde is right now. But what we have are the devs that are screwing the balance and the PvP world while doing nothing about balancing factions. And some of you players are applauding them.
11/05/2018 07:12 AMPosted by
Deklend
I mean, I doubt someone who has had their leg severed is going to thank you for putting a Band-Aid on their stump. Does nothing to stop them from being crippled and bleeding out.
So much this. 100 times.
11/05/2018 07:08 AMPosted by
Eloreil
Roleplayer faction tend to take ingame joke too seriously.
Blizzard said "You're welcome Alliance" because you keep complaining Alliance never win BGs, so they put a bot for you to stomp.
So its basically Blizzard addressing your concern, but ofc you decide to feel insulted instead of being thankful.
My concern, and i'm pretty sure it's the case for most of the Alliance players, is balance. With balance we can fight our way to the top. With balance we can give Horde players quality PvP. Bias bring us all down. Bots are the worst thing that can happen to PvP.
The game is already pretty balanced in terms of racial (abit in favor of Alliance)
Top blizzcon arena team like Method Black still using strong combination like Human+ Relentless and Dwarf healer combo.
Night Elf being the strongest race for Blizzcon Dungeon invitational, Method NA race changed their entire roster to Night Elf then win Blizzcon.
If you actually want balance then nerf shadowmeld to 5 minute cooldown or nerf Stoneform.
Racial isn't the reason Alliance sucks.
11/03/2018 05:31 PMPosted by
Ulkessh
jesus, what did they say now?
a joke, that people are getting butthurt over.
The funny thing is, Alliance Large scale WPvP is winning.
Shows how out of touch a lot of them are with their own game.
The game is already pretty balanced in terms of racial (abit in favor of Alliance)
Top blizzcon arena team like Method Black still using strong combination like Human+ Relentless and Dwarf healer combo.
Night Elf being the strongest race for Blizzcon Dungeon invitational, Method NA race changed their entire roster to Night Elf then win Blizzcon.
If you actually want balance then nerf shadowmeld to 5 minute cooldown or nerf Stoneform.
Racial isn't the reason Alliance sucks.
The funny thing is, Alliance Large scale WPvP is winning.
Shows how out of touch a lot of them are with their own game.
Maybe you guys should talk to each other before posting.
And i'm not talking about racials. I'm talking about bringing back top PvE and PvP guilds on the Alliance side.
They make a joke about the alliance and the only people that think it's funny are themselves and horde Fanbois on Twitter and WoW Reddit.
Meanwhile they are in a joke state.
All feedback is negative. They only listen to horde Fanbois and then wonder why no one likes anything they decide.
So if they think it's funny more power to them
11/05/2018 08:33 AMPosted by
Halodin
And i'm not talking about racials. I'm talking about bringing back top PvE and PvP guilds on the Alliance side.
Why? they dont want to play Alliance.
11/05/2018 08:46 AMPosted by
Eloreil
11/05/2018 08:33 AMPosted by
Halodin
And i'm not talking about racials. I'm talking about bringing back top PvE and PvP guilds on the Alliance side.
Why? they dont want to play Alliance.
They were content with playing alliance for a long, long time, though. But the population imbalance drove them to Horde.