You're welcome Alliance

Its a tradition to mock alliance at blizzcon
It just becomes sadder and sadder each year since the faction is in such poor state
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Let me tell you a joke....

The Alliance.
Who we kidding. Blizzard employees were the uber nerds stuffed in trashcans when they were kids. They relate to the ugly troglodyte rejected races that are the horde.

They are loving this, even joking about it now.

My main is now horde though, so carry on! Enjoying my advantage after 12 years (minus WOD) of being kicked in the head.
It is funny to me. When the game came out with battlegrounds horde had instant qs and won probably 2 out of 3. Now the alliance has instant qs and still lose all the time. I was top rated as alliance so using racials as the excuse is poor.
11/05/2018 03:23 AMPosted by Phaylure
11/05/2018 03:20 AMPosted by Lionhart
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Yes.

Instead of actually doing something to help fix the faction balance that's in Horde's favor, they're adding bots to lower the Horde's queue times.

So Alliance get to fight real people and horde get to fight easy mode bots in battlegrounds.


Source? Please?


Youtube Blizzcon 2018 World of Warcraft : What's next
Around 25:30min
Thank you.
Mirror racials among factions with different art effects.
Allow a month of free faction transfer. That’d help fixing the imbalance.
ITT backpedalers and LFR heroes correlate their faction to their skill level
11/05/2018 03:31 AMPosted by Flommincy
It is funny to me. When the game came out with battlegrounds horde had instant qs and won probably 2 out of 3. Now the alliance has instant qs and still lose all the time. I was top rated as alliance so using racials as the excuse is poor.


So you haven't play BGs on the Alliance side since Classic and Blizz made no change to racials since then? Right?

So explain to me the reason behind the mass exodus of all the top Alliance guilds pve and pvp + all their followers to the Horde side.

Oh and inb4allianceisbad.
It’s no wonder the devs make fun of Alliance players if they are getting their feedback from this forum.

If you read this forum you would think the no alliance player is having WM on. It’s just not true. Alliance in GD are giving a black name to the alliance players of the game .
11/05/2018 03:47 AMPosted by Dosao
It’s no wonder the devs make fun of Alliance players if they are getting their feedback from this forum.

If you read this forum you would think the no alliance player is having WM on. It’s just not true. Alliance in GD are giving a black name to the alliance players of the game .


That is surely why the devs, at Blizzcon, are announcing incitatives like more bonus for the players to put warmode on. That's a well known fact that the Horde have a free 10% xp in BFA so i'll let you guess why they are doing that.

But hey nice try.
Let's seey they joke about Horde changing Warchief literally once per expansion. Everyone's ok.

They joke about the Alliance and it's the Apocalypse?

Seriously guys. Learn how to take a joke!

Like really. You guys are about to raid Zandalar, kill their king, dizimate their fleet wich was the reason the Horde wanted them, your King is so perfect it's enfuriating, you have 0 inner struggle inside your ranks, you are not goons to a crazy genocidal dead elf who probably won't last until next expansion and you are according to the devs themselves WINNING the war.

And still is not enough? You are winning the war and also WHINNING about the war. Take. Your. Victory. And for once on your life, be happy about it.
11/05/2018 04:23 AMPosted by Zaluzan
Let's seey they joke about Horde changing Warchief literally once per expansion. Everyone's ok.

They joke about the Alliance and it's the Apocalypse?

Seriously guys. Learn how to take a joke!

Like really. You guys are about to raid Zandalar, kill their king, dizimate their fleet wich was the reason the Horde wanted them, your King is so perfect it's enfuriating, you have 0 inner struggle inside your ranks, you are not goons to a crazy genocidal dead elf who probably won't last until next expansion and you are according to the devs themselves WINNING the war.

And still is not enough? You are winning the war and also WHINNING about the war. Take. Your. Victory. And for once on your life, be happy about it.


We'd take the joke, if it wasn't always us at the butt of it.

Ghostcrawler
Alliance Battle Cry
Cataclysm parody quests
Siege of Orgrimmar
Warlords of Draenor
Our faction imbalance in PvP
Our entire war campaign
Even the Siege of Dazar'alor fails our main objective of cutting the Zandalari support from the Horde.

You can tell us to accept what victories we can. But its like the child, and step-child situation. You feed your biological son and lavish him with praise, but starve the step-son then when you feed him a piece of bread. Demanding he appreciate you fed him at all.

Battle for Azeroth hasn't been kind for us from the War of Thorns to the Siege of Lordaeran. So far looks like we're really not getting anything out of sieging Dazar'alor far as it appears. We kill Rastakhan, whom everyone predicted was going to die anyways. Talanji, whom we knew was going to replace him does so and effectively joins the Horde.

Even more so; OUR LEADERS IN THIS EXPANSION LAMENT ON KILLING RASTAKHAN. They hold no pride in killing the king. Killing the enemy, the leader of a nation who refused to back down in the face of war. Robbing the satisfaction of said victory. Is it really a victory if you're left with guilt of failure?
11/05/2018 04:38 AMPosted by Aelliciah
11/05/2018 04:23 AMPosted by Zaluzan
Let's seey they joke about Horde changing Warchief literally once per expansion. Everyone's ok.

They joke about the Alliance and it's the Apocalypse?

Seriously guys. Learn how to take a joke!

Like really. You guys are about to raid Zandalar, kill their king, dizimate their fleet wich was the reason the Horde wanted them, your King is so perfect it's enfuriating, you have 0 inner struggle inside your ranks, you are not goons to a crazy genocidal dead elf who probably won't last until next expansion and you are according to the devs themselves WINNING the war.

And still is not enough? You are winning the war and also WHINNING about the war. Take. Your. Victory. And for once on your life, be happy about it.


We'd take the joke, if it wasn't always us at the butt of it.

Ghostcrawler
Alliance Battle Cry
Cataclysm parody quests
Siege of Orgrimmar
Warlords of Draenor
Our faction imbalance in PvP
Our entire war campaign
Even the Siege of Dazar'alor fails our main objective of cutting the Zandalari support from the Horde.

You can tell us to accept what victories we can. But its like the child, and step-child situation. You feed your biological son and lavish him with praise, but starve the step-son then when you feed him a piece of bread. Demanding he appreciate you fed him at all.

Battle for Azeroth hasn't been kind for us from the War of Thorns to the Siege of Lordaeran. So far looks like we're really not getting anything out of sieging Dazar'alor far as it appears. We kill Rastakhan, whom everyone predicted was going to die anyways. Talanji, whom we knew was going to replace him does so and effectively joins the Horde.

Even more so; OUR LEADERS IN THIS EXPANSION LAMENT ON KILLING RASTAKHAN. They hold no pride in killing the king. Killing the enemy, the leader of a nation who refused to back down in the face of war. Robbing the satisfaction of said victory. Is it really a victory if you're left with guilt of failure?


Are you trying to compare actual suffering to a make believe story about elves and trolls fighting knights on tanks?!

Besides you think the leaders of the Horde are celebrating the murder of children on Teldrassil? No. Only Sylvanas and her boy-toy are. Baine is mad as hell, Saurfang deserted and even Valtrois is comparing Sylvanas to the Legion.

Face it. The Alliance are the heroes, they are going to win this war. The Horde is the VILLAIN here. And you know what happens to villains every expansion don't you? You know what happened at the end of Mists of Pandaria don't you? The Alliance WON and the Horde was completely demoralized knowing it only exists because the plot said so.

You are having an entire patch of Alliance striking back at the Horde. Enjoy it.
11/05/2018 03:20 AMPosted by Lionhart
11/05/2018 02:57 AMPosted by Phaylure
Waaaiiiit... They're adding bots to pvp? Really??


Yes.

Instead of actually doing something to help fix the faction balance that's in Horde's favor, they're adding bots to lower the Horde's queue times.

So Alliance get to fight real people and horde get to fight easy mode bots in battlegrounds.


I don't PvP, ever. I hate it and never will.

But correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds like PvE and not PvP
11/05/2018 02:28 AMPosted by Aelliciah
When you've played World of Warcraft for some odd years. The joke no longer is funny and is just a poke to fresh wounds not healing. To face an A.I would be the only real reason to get Alliance invested in PvP (without really being PVP). Blizzard caused this imbalance due to pathetically weak racials. They have not changed the racials beyond Every Man For Himself so its no longer BiS.

Legion had the problem of blood elves dominating PvP and PvE. With Mythic+ competitions being purely Horde. Any Alliance teams easily lost the race. But thats another story. The Mythic Scene favored the Horde every time with Arcane Torrent, War Stomp, and Beserking. There isn't a single Alliance racial that meets that same demand or expectation.

The Horde's racials have become more and more paramount, and Zandalari Trolls are just another example of powerful racials. While Alliance get garbage variants for the Kul Tirans. Zandalari getting a stat bonus, a channelled regeneration, and a slowfall. While the Kul Tirans get a punch knockback... Oh but can swim faster too.

Honestly.. the Alliance PvP scene is at its lowest and its just getting worse. There's reasons why high end PvP always goes Horde. It'll always be better to have number pushing racials or additional stuns over some niche escape mechanic for stuns/snares.

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Putting into perspective of the racials, like I've done multiple times in the past:

ALLIANCE:
  • Humans - 1% Versatility bonus + Stun removal (EMFH)
  • Dwarves - Debuff removal + Damage taken reduction 10% (8 seconds - Stoneskin)
  • Gnomes - 1% haste + Slow/Snare removal (Escape Artist)
  • Night Elves - Avoidance 1% - Target Drop (Lame man's Stealth - Shadowmeld)
  • Draenei - Primary Stat incrase + 20% heal over 5 seconds (Based on caster's total health only - Gift of the Naaru)
  • Worgen - Crit 1% - Run 40% faster. (Darkflight)
  • Void Elves - Lame Man's Blink (Often broken if anything is in the way - Spatial Rift) - RNG based 5% damage tick for every attack (Entropic Embrace) & No casting pushback.
  • Lightforged Draenei - Kamikazi healing/damage to surrounding targets + Single target damage. (Both heavily nerfed in PvP to the point of worthlessness. Losing 50% in PvP - Light's Judgement & Light's Reckoning)
  • Dark Iron Dwarves - Fireblood - Remove dots and gain base stat increase and additional for every debuff removed. (Has been nerfed 3 times thus far.)
  • HORDE:
  • Orc: Stun Duration reduction 20% + Bloodfury: Increases melee and ranged attack power for 15 seconds.
  • Troll: Beserking: Increases your haste by 15% for 10 sec. + Slow/Snare duration reduced by 20%.
  • Tauren: War Stomp - AoE Stun + 2% critical increase
  • Undead: WotF - Break charm/sleep/fear effects + RNG based life steal to all attacks.
  • Blood Elves: AoE dispel and Resource Regen + 1% Crit
  • Goblins: 1% Haste + Rocket Boots & Rocket Belt - Deal damage or movement leap.
  • Highmountain Tauren: Bull Rush: Charge & Stun + Versatility 1% + leveled damage reduction to all sources.
  • Nightborne: 1% increase to all magical damage (This includes any sort of ability that has elemental use. Rogue Poisons and Monk spells) - AoE Damage + Slow (Arcane Pulse)
  • Mag'har Orcs: Debuff Durations last 10% less. (Curses, poisons, diseases) - RNG based Secondary stat increase (Ancestral Call)


  • So Alliance has better PvP racials and horde has PvE ones? Cool.
    11/05/2018 04:38 AMPosted by Aelliciah
    Even more so; OUR LEADERS IN THIS EXPANSION LAMENT ON KILLING RASTAKHAN. They hold no pride in killing the king. Killing the enemy, the leader of a nation who refused to back down in the face of war. Robbing the satisfaction of said victory. Is it really a victory if you're left with guilt of failure?
    You forgot Jaina eating a bullet and Mekkatorque being Magni'd.

    The Zandalari had also allied with the Horde already by the time of the raid, as evidenced by the Horde attacking Anglepoint Wharf with Zandalari wearing Orgrimmar tabards. Sylvanas also comments that the Horde had secured use of their fleet. All that's accomplished in the raid is that the Alliance turns their relationship from two allied empires to an empire and a vassal.
    11/05/2018 04:06 AMPosted by Halodin
    11/05/2018 03:47 AMPosted by Dosao
    It’s no wonder the devs make fun of Alliance players if they are getting their feedback from this forum.

    If you read this forum you would think the no alliance player is having WM on. It’s just not true. Alliance in GD are giving a black name to the alliance players of the game .


    That is surely why the devs, at Blizzcon, are announcing incitatives like more bonus for the players to put warmode on. That's a well known fact that the Horde have a free 10% xp in BFA so i'll let you guess why they are doing that.

    But hey nice try.


    Oh man I must have imagined the 120 alliance players ganking me at Drustvar as bad that I had to travel back to Orgi and turn WM off so that I could even quest.
    11/05/2018 04:52 AMPosted by Thèón
    So Alliance has better PvP racials and horde has PvE ones? Cool.


    Not even in the slightest. The Alliance racials are niche. What looks good on paper falls apart in practice. In Legion, in a world of casters, the one with the most interrupts rules as king. Thus why Blood Elves dominated the charts. they had extremely strong racial usage that was overshadowed by others in the past. But saw great use with it.

    Current content still behaves the same. Alliance Racials are not meeting the same merit. Horde still dominate the PvP and PvE scenes. All end game is strictly on their side. Beserking, Bloodfury, Arcane Torrent, War Stomp, and Bull Rush are good examples of good active racials in both PvP and PvE.

    Crowd Control has been at its highest demand, with melee dominating PvP. The more CC, the more power to you. 15% haste is godsend in any content especially with the GCD issues we have in BFA.
    11/05/2018 04:59 AMPosted by Aelliciah
    11/05/2018 04:52 AMPosted by Thèón
    So Alliance has better PvP racials and horde has PvE ones? Cool.


    Not even in the slightest. The Alliance racials are niche. What looks good on paper falls apart in practice. In Legion, in a world of casters, the one with the most interrupts rules as king. Thus why Blood Elves dominated the charts. they had extremely strong racial usage that was overshadowed by others in the past. But saw great use with it.

    Current content still behaves the same. Alliance Racials are not meeting the same merit. Horde still dominate the PvP and PvE scenes. All end game is strictly on their side. Beserking, Bloodfury, Arcane Torrent, War Stomp, and Bull Rush are good examples of good active racials in both PvP and PvE.

    Crowd Control has been at its highest demand, with melee dominating PvP. The more CC, the more power to you. 15% haste is godsend in any content especially with the GCD issues we have in BFA.


    I'd rather have an extra interrupt from the KT racial rather than 15% haste for a few seconds.