11/04/2018 02:22 PMPosted by
Thèón
11/04/2018 02:18 PMPosted by
Daiyu
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Last I checked Mr. Metzen is no longer employed by Blizzard and is just another player now so it's fine. Even if he has a unlimited access account so he doesn't need to pay a subscription and gets all future expansions free along with complimentary Blizzcon tickets, he does not work at the company anymore so using him as an excuse is kinda invalid.
But he still made a joke at the Alliances expense!
What's your point? He's a player now and that is the norm for us to be slinging stuff at one another. Besides someone mentioned he mains a human paladin so he was just stirring the pot for hype.
11/04/2018 02:26 PMPosted by
Vixie
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This,
And the team need to buff alliance racials... end of story.
That's why they made that joke. It's a Comp Stomp BG. Alliance vs. AI (with no racials).
Sense of humor, get some.
If they use the island expedition AI that will not be an easy battle. It's very good training for players and I always recommend it even if the AI cheats due to their bonus damage to mobs.
11/03/2018 07:34 PMPosted by
Fuyukko
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Horde complain too. But the devs respond to them. Which is why it always looks like Alliance 'cry' longer and louder than Horde ever do. It really only ever takes one-three forums posts for Horde ptr content to change--> which is literally what happened with the Saurfang questline.
It takes the notoriety of red-shirt guy to write a insanely detailed and well argued blog post to get the Tyrande & Nathanos fight changed to be reasonable. and again, we've been complaining that Alliance was always portrayed as incompetent losers since war of the thorns.
The bias and contempt Blizzard shows for half their fans. I as an Alliance Player want balance. Maybe fix our Racials for all races not just one or two? Have them all on Pair. Good God look what we Gnomes have for racials. They're a joke.
Escape Artist. Let's see I can get out of being rooted. But Everyman for himself handles roots, stuns, fears..
Escape artist is just a crap version of Everyman for himself.
What else do we have. Oh we have Engineering Specialization. An extra 15 Engineering skill points.
The profession skill point Racials. They all suck. There's no exclusive Engineering recipe that needs those extra skill points. It's just extra leveling at max level engineering. That's not useful or beneficial.
Expansive Mind. An extra 5 points to our mana bar. That's real useful. Also the description is misleading. Gnome Death Knights don't have extra Runic power in their bar, Or Gnome rogues have extra energy.
This only pertains to the mana bar. And it's barely a boon of any kind.
The only active Gnome Racial is a weaker version of a Human Racial. And the others are all boring passives that don't really benefit. Or have such a slight benefit for very specific class and weapon choices.
Let's compare with Goblins. Aka the Horde's version of Gnomes.
Better Living Through Chemistry. It's the same thing as the Engineering Specialization but for Alchemy. So Goblins have it just as bad as Gnomes?
Haha yeah right!
Best Deals Anywhere they get a 10% discount on all vendor bought items. This is based on percentage. Meaning the more expensive the buy the more gold they save. It costs a Goblin player thousands of Gold less to buy that shiney Prestious mount then a Gnome player. For the same thing. THAT is far more tangible.
Pack Hobgoblin so they can always summon a bank teller anywhere any time.
Rocket Barrage while a weak attack it's a hell lot more tangible then any of the "Racials" Gnomes got.
Rocket Jump an Goblin Sprint. Come on.
Half the Gnome racials only apply to some of the classes we can play. And the other racials only work with certain weapons we pick. All Goblins can benifit from Rocket Jump, Rocket Barrage and Pack Hobgoblin.
I mean. Why not a Racial where the Gnome summons an Robot to fight for them for a lil bit? Give it a decently long CD so it's not too OP. Is that so hard.
It's not just Gnomes. Pick any Alliance race and compare the racials to a Horde Race.
More often then not we either got useless Racials, Boring Racials. Or Boring and useless Racials.
Just worth pointing out if no one else has:
You’re wrong on every single level.
EMFH only removes stuns and has done for quite a while.
Trade skill racials aren’t just a bigger number once you hit max, they also affect leveling up said prof by letting you craft cheaper stuff for longer to get more pts.
We do gain extra energy and rage not just mana. Haven’t checked runic but I’m sure we do there too.
1% haste is pretty good for a large amount of specs just not brm or ww too much.
Well, protest with your wallets. Just unsubscribe. I did.
They can make the alliance a bot faction for what I care. This game is dead if they keep this developers team.
11/04/2018 03:12 PMPosted by
Pintia
Well, protest with your wallets. Just unsubscribe. I did.
They can make the alliance a bot faction for what I care. This game is dead if they keep this developers team.
I was really surprised when I didn't get a survey to fill out asking why I canceled my accounts. I thought you were suppose to get one. Did they remove it?
11/04/2018 04:26 PMPosted by
Daiyu
11/04/2018 03:12 PMPosted by
Pintia
Well, protest with your wallets. Just unsubscribe. I did.
They can make the alliance a bot faction for what I care. This game is dead if they keep this developers team.
I was really surprised when I didn't get a survey to fill out asking why I canceled my accounts. I thought you were suppose to get one. Did they remove it?
Only if you’re horde. Get it?
11/04/2018 04:26 PMPosted by
Daiyu
11/04/2018 03:12 PMPosted by
Pintia
Well, protest with your wallets. Just unsubscribe. I did.
They can make the alliance a bot faction for what I care. This game is dead if they keep this developers team.
I was really surprised when I didn't get a survey to fill out asking why I canceled my accounts. I thought you were suppose to get one. Did they remove it?
I saw that too. Bad move Blizzard. Last time, during WoD, I had a rep emailing me and asking me why I was ending my subscription. He addressed all the reasons and said that he will pass it on to devs but not promised anything. He also said he wishes that when changes were implement it would be great to see me back. Now, that was a great customer service. I have been a customer since Vanilla (in EU servers, God I’m old) and Blizzard was a company I respected. Now we just seem to be cash cows.
11/03/2018 05:43 PMPosted by
Vornuus
You might want to invest in some thicker skin.
This,
And the team need to buff alliance racials... end of story.
Quite a few of the alliance racials are "BiS" for raiding. The problem is the massive shift of raiding guilds to horde that has happened since Cata. Unless Blizzard does a complete rework that tips alliance racials miles ahead of the hordes those guild won't be coming back.
It would have been a funny joke if we knew that the dev team wasn't almost 100% horde players.
But because of that fact, they are punching down with their jokes. And it's only funny if you happen to be on the side that's punching down.
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11/04/2018 08:40 PMPosted by
Rwagrim
It would have been a funny joke if we knew that the dev team wasn't almost 100% horde players.
With the game director proudly stating that he has not, and will never make an Alliance character. And after they've been making jabs at the Alliance playerbase for EIGHT YEARS.
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Most of the guys that tried to rein in the horde fanboyism of many of the devs have already left so they get free rein. I mean in the build a panel: world creation one of the guys there mentioned wanted to insert horde graffiti on the varian memorial (aka discount park).
https://www.wowhead.com/news=288405/blizzcon-2018-build-a-panel-world-creation-in-wow
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Quite a few of the alliance racials are "BiS" for raiding. The problem is the massive shift of raiding guilds to horde that has happened since Cata. Unless Blizzard does a complete rework that tips alliance racials miles ahead of the hordes those guild won't be coming back.
Oh really?
Name them.
Go on. Tell us how our racials work.
If you want the devs to give a crap about you, you should've rolled horde long ago - the horde is there waiting for you! The only people left alliance side are people who don't pay much attention to the meta (casuals and such), contrarians, and roleplayers (also high end pvpers if you're in Europe). The good news is that, as alliance population continues to drop, it's starting to feel more like old vanilla horde felt.
When you've played World of Warcraft for some odd years. The joke no longer is funny and is just a poke to fresh wounds not healing. To face an A.I would be the only real reason to get Alliance invested in PvP (without really being PVP). Blizzard caused this imbalance due to pathetically weak racials. They have not changed the racials beyond Every Man For Himself so its no longer BiS.
Legion had the problem of blood elves dominating PvP and PvE. With Mythic+ competitions being purely Horde. Any Alliance teams easily lost the race. But thats another story. The Mythic Scene favored the Horde every time with Arcane Torrent, War Stomp, and Beserking. There isn't a single Alliance racial that meets that same demand or expectation.
The Horde's racials have become more and more paramount, and Zandalari Trolls are just another example of powerful racials. While Alliance get garbage variants for the Kul Tirans. Zandalari getting a stat bonus, a channelled regeneration, and a slowfall. While the Kul Tirans get a punch knockback... Oh but can swim faster too.
Honestly.. the Alliance PvP scene is at its lowest and its just getting worse. There's reasons why high end PvP always goes Horde. It'll always be better to have number pushing racials or additional stuns over some niche escape mechanic for stuns/snares.
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Putting into perspective of the racials, like I've done multiple times in the past:
ALLIANCE:
Humans - 1% Versatility bonus + Stun removal (EMFH)
Dwarves - Debuff removal + Damage taken reduction 10% (8 seconds - Stoneskin)
Gnomes - 1% haste + Slow/Snare removal (Escape Artist)
Night Elves - Avoidance 1% - Target Drop (Lame man's Stealth - Shadowmeld)
Draenei - Primary Stat incrase + 20% heal over 5 seconds (Based on caster's total health only - Gift of the Naaru)
Worgen - Crit 1% - Run 40% faster. (Darkflight)
Void Elves - Lame Man's Blink (Often broken if anything is in the way - Spatial Rift) - RNG based 5% damage tick for every attack (Entropic Embrace) & No casting pushback.
Lightforged Draenei - Kamikazi healing/damage to surrounding targets + Single target damage. (Both heavily nerfed in PvP to the point of worthlessness. Losing 50% in PvP - Light's Judgement & Light's Reckoning)
Dark Iron Dwarves - Fireblood - Remove dots and gain base stat increase and additional for every debuff removed. (Has been nerfed 3 times thus far.)HORDE:
Orc: Stun Duration reduction 20% + Bloodfury: Increases melee and ranged attack power for 15 seconds.
Troll: Beserking: Increases your haste by 15% for 10 sec. + Slow/Snare duration reduced by 20%.
Tauren: War Stomp - AoE Stun + 2% critical increase
Undead: WotF - Break charm/sleep/fear effects + RNG based life steal to all attacks.
Blood Elves: AoE dispel and Resource Regen + 1% Crit
Goblins: 1% Haste + Rocket Boots & Rocket Belt - Deal damage or movement leap.
Highmountain Tauren: Bull Rush: Charge & Stun + Versatility 1% + leveled damage reduction to all sources.
Nightborne: 1% increase to all magical damage (This includes any sort of ability that has elemental use. Rogue Poisons and Monk spells) - AoE Damage + Slow (Arcane Pulse)
Mag'har Orcs: Debuff Durations last 10% less. (Curses, poisons, diseases) - RNG based Secondary stat increase (Ancestral Call)
"Need thicker skin" jabs aside, it was still pretty cringe worthy knowing that they see there's a problem and adding in AI is some kind of answer? Then have a panel about being nice to one another and "playing fair?"
C'mon. You can do better Blizz.
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Waaaiiiit... They're adding bots to pvp? Really??
Waaaiiiit... They're adding bots to pvp? Really??
Yes.
Instead of actually doing something to help fix the faction balance that's in Horde's favor, they're adding bots to lower the Horde's queue times.
So Alliance get to fight real people and horde get to fight easy mode bots in battlegrounds.
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If you call 'story content' your faction canabalizing itself every couple of expansions, sure it's inbalanced.
I'd prefer the Horde not have this 'fight amongst yourselves because savages' thing.