Just go read the beta notes on the forum, see how many notes they gave shaman there. Then go look at the shaman feedback forum they’ve posted there. Devs have the gall to thanks us for our feedback and then remind us that beta is for fine tuning only, not major reworks. Then the shamans who are allowed to post there have no spine to tell Blizz how it is.
This is friggin’ ridiculous. They know they screwed over our hero talent trees and put no time in to developing them and then think they can tell us NO MAJOR CHANGES ARE NEEDED?? are you joking? Shaman needs huge changes, everyone in the whole d$#n forum told you the class needed it. Not a SINGLE shaman post said the hero talent trees or our regular talent trees just need minor changes and they’ll be good to go. Not. A. One. You handed us trash and said it was gold. Nobody is buying it, you dropped the ball and don’t have the character to apologize.
Every shaman on this forum NEEDS to post about how ridiculous this is. Post it here, post it in the general and other class forums that Blizz loves. And please, someone who can post on Blizz’s feedback forum grow a spine and tell them how bad our class and hero talent trees suck.
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Oh I’m mad enough. I’ve been talking wild trash on every platform I can find for at least 4 weeks now. My Twitter feed is basically a Shaman Ninety-five Theses
Retweet, upvote, and like everything you can on every platform you can.
And go to the general forum and post in that “Most Neglected Class” thread that is basically the community saying Shaman are screwed.
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HEY THATS MY THREAD! I’m famous now!
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We thank you for your service.
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Farseer is trash casino proc fest and would only be alittle less trash if they rework ele to have the S3/S4 2 and 4pc set bonuses as their own nodes and capstone in the ele tree. Ancestors not interacting with any of our talents is an absolute joke. Ancestors still target random things to attack.
Stormbringer is a meme and similarly doesn’t interact with any talents. Having to take Lava Burst talents feels SO bad as a lightning build (to get to Skybreaker’s Fiery Demise).
Flame Shock having a cooldown is one of the dumbest garbage ideas on the planet.
Ele Blast is probably one of the most painful buttons to press.
2/4pc of the new Ele set are horrible and seriously underpowered compared to Havoc, Feral, Ret, H Priest, Assa, Sub, and Enh.
I love Ele. I truly do.
But Brothers and Sisters, things are looking too grim to bare.
Playing nice and being politely passive have gotten us nowhere.
Edit: Oh god I didn’t even go into survivability!
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Bud, Shaman has been poorly treated and forgotten for years. I think most Shamans are tired of trying to fight against Blizzard. Just reroll to another class if you care about cutting edge content or class performance.
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I made a destro lock, and top dps all the keys with FAT PULLS into rain of fire spam. It’s a hard rotation and it’s why it pays off with huge damage unlike enhancements simple rotation of 19 million buttons of half builders and half spenders….
I also have
-A strong wall
-Dark pact shield defensive
-Soul Leach passively as a defensive
-Soul Link as another defensive
-Multiple stamina buffs
-Can dispel magic with my pet off myself
-healthstone with soul burn to basically lay on hands myself
Sure would hate to have to sit in ghost wolf like an idiot for a defensive and a 5 minute stam buff I have permanently as a lock and only astral shift.
I can’t ankh, but I guess I could soul stone myself … but there isn’t really ever a need.
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Just want to draw attention to this detail…
For those who have beta access you might need to manually log out of the forums and then back in before the access privileges update to let you post/respond to the beta forums.
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Continuing the discussion from Feedback: Shamans:
Glad to see some kind of confirmation Shaman will be a dead class again. Good thing I have Alts that align much better with their class fantasy.
I want to play shaman because I like to fantasy of totems. But over the course of the game’s development that fantasy has been increasingly pushed away. I was excited for a totemic hero talents but then I saw the model for a generic surging totem. That broke my heart. I thought we were trying to move away from every race sharing the same totem model. Why are we going backwards?
But I guess I can’t expect much from a company that can’t be bothered to provide racial ghost wolf forms… a feature that been asked for over a decade. A DECADE.
I’m furious.
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This is a AAA game that made over half a billion in profit last year alone, with a subscription, every other year $50-90 expansions, and in-game transactions, there is ZERO reason for the developers to be so understaffed that Shaman end up spending another expansion playing like its still 2020 with spell effects from 2014 and totems even older.
You’re definitely not mad enough.
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It’s crazy how two of the classes, Mage and Warlock, you would think to be the squishiest (glass cannon cloth caster) are easily some of the tankiest classes on the roster. Meanwhile, Hunter and Shaman both wear mail and die to basic unavoidable damage in raids because they just lack any survivability.
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did some testing and yes shaman is lacking fr
I’m already planning on re-rolling in TWW. If I want to stay a Healer main, probably go Priest or Druid, or hell maybe even Evoker. For DPS, I’m looking at Warrior or Warlock.
Shaman is just a dead class. Been my main since MOP and it’s just been routinely ignored expansion after expansion.
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And going into TWW as far as defensives go…
Warlocks are getting their health stone as a 1 minute cooldown instead of once per combat phase.
Shaman are getting….
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What was with the obsession with adding a bunch of short cds to each spec legion onward?
Like heres deluge, cloudburst, downpour, stormkeeper, icefury, sundering, doomwinds, and lets not forget pwave.
Idk man, im playing cata and it just feels nice.
we not getting any changer shaman is aways the last to get love
2set and the 4set how to cast fast healing wave
Enhance Shaman was always alot of fun to play up until LEGION WHERE IT GOT ABSOLUTELY BUTCHERED. It has never recovered. Not only that it is a melee spec that is super squishy since then with mediocre damage.
Ele has been pretty stable over the years except for it’s current state of hitting with wet noodles.
Resto still has to hard cast way too much and pretty low output overall.
I can only sub to this game for a month or 2 a year for the past 4 or 5 years, check things out, then unsub again.
Then post on the forums to try and help the cause only to find most people on the forums just give you troll responses and their catch phrase is then leave. can I have your stuff? L2P noob. lol
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Shamans just need to rise up and flood the general area more since they don’t bother looking in the shaman area. Or send in mass tickets.
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The class fantasy of a Shaman is my fav, but the combat is a clunky hot mess.
Since the detailed feedback already given has been ignored, i’ll just stick to angry vague posts.
I believe I’ve settled on DK for War Within. Riding horses with some bros.
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