People have been discussing this issue ever since it’s reveal at blizzcon. It’s been the hot topic ever since then.
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Wait, so we’re jerks for wanting to pick and choose the people that give us the best chance at doing whatever it is successfully?
Or maybe he’s just trying to bring more awareness to the oncoming problem…
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In all reality there are more people who blindly follow the meta then proactively think. If you look at mistweaver even though they are fine for your 15 you still get rejected bc on druid or pally
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Not seeing it. If I choose druid for example. Suddenly the aesthetics and themes are druidic in nature. The spells and skills I use will all have a unique appearence which may or may not appeal to me. Additionally I may change my spec which will alter my appearence. I’ll be a bear, cat, birdy and back in older times a tree. Rogue likewise have simular aesthetic choices, which the comsetic portion used to be tied to the type of sets they could acquire. Ontop of the abilities which have their own flavor and appearence. How is that not a aesthetic and thematic choice, tied to player power?
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Can you think of a single tier than had more than two bosses that add management was a big enough thing that classes couldn’t do it off cleave?
Man I’m a resto shaman, I don’t know if groups even think a 15 is legal with one 
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Untying Player Powers From Covenants = Frustration removed
Free goal Blizzard, take it!
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They’re gonna do it eventually and claim it’s because they were supposedly listening to the player base
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That is the World of Warcraft Raiding/Mythic+ that you play.
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I mainly play tanks. I haven’t been declined for any groups I’ve applied for. Not that I’m super high IO. But I’ve seen some of those 15+ groups waiting for 20+ minutes for tanks.
I can’t imagine they’d decline me if I have the IO because I picked the covenant with Ysera.
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Damn… this takes me back.
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How many bosses do you want in a raid tier? There’s four covenants. If one of them is the “AoE covenant”, then that leaves 3 that specialize in other things. If 2 bosses are add heavy, that leaves 6 that aren’t to balance it. 8 bosses isn’t the most we’ve had, but it’s certainly on the high end.
As though the dozen other threads weren’t enough awareness?
You know really thinking about it the only time I’ve ever seen a mmo really achieve “balance” was when I played Matrix online ages ago. They redid everything so gear had no stats, systems had zero combat benefits, and everything was tied to abilities and level. And what happened. The game was shut down like 6 months later.
You can always not play meta but you will not only limit yourself but limit everyone that has to group with you. It’s selfish. So it’s your money and your time and you can do what you want but you really shouldn’t complain because someone else doesn’t want to be hindered by your poor choices.
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No, you will not be declined based on covenants, even if they are a 20% dps difference within one another.
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For casual content I wouldn’t think so but for the people who actually try hard and push in this game I can bet you’d get declined.
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Genuinely made me laugh loudly irl, thanks!
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You cannot honestly be saying that this is close or good? If it’s 20% that is HORRIFYING.
Mistweavers do 3-5% less healing than other healers and they are memed by the entire raiding community.
Sub rogues do within 10% of other rogue specs and are NEVER picked for ANY content EVER.
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I will be playing a tank. And there is shortages of tank, so if they decline me, the group will suffer on its own by having to wait longer to start the raid or dungeon 
Uh, any pug is casual then. And pugs are the only scenario where you get accepted or declined.
To put it short, if you wanna push keys for whatever reason, have a premade group for it and then you build a strategy based on the covenant of your choice.
Yea, the strategy is to reroll if your class is bad or change covenant if your covenant is bad
Great strategy!
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