You cannot fake numerical values, I'm sorry

I was talking about you and not them. You said you “saw” something. Can you prove what you “saw”? Do you have any shred of evidence beyond, “Well they only hired men, and this one woman whom they then hit on”?

You’re missing my point. Didn’t you want the government to step it and make it illegal to pay women less than men? They’ve literally already done that. What more do you want?

Also, allegations aren’t proof.

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I refuse to take advice from someone with such terrible grammar. Nobody is saying it never happens you dolt. Yeah, it is slow in here. Youre here…

One is easier to proof than the other.

Thing is though.

The last time some women tried to proof the disparity, the case was thrown out in the trash by the judge.

It was some womens sports team.

You wanna know why?

Because they did not consider every factor. They did not stop to think, why mens sportsteams are paid so much, they only thought: “Damn, they are paid so much” and then they listened to the bullcrap of the gender pay gap, and thought: “Hey… we should be paid the same!”

Never stopping to think that they do not bring the same about of viewers as the mens sportsteam, they do not rake in as much advertising money, etc. they didn’t even consider the fact, that they are actually working at a loss for the league that keeps them.

Hilarious stuff.

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umm, can I pretend your a judge? seriously it will save me sooo much paperwork in the end.

I think this guy has some deeply personal issues with men. He sounds unhinged and keeps calling men (Im guessing all men) “pigs” and “addicted.” What theyre addicted to Ive yet to figure out… Guessing your common sense is lost on him

Yes.

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Lewd.

:rofl: :rofl:

Hahahah! Well played!

leave him be, he’s been trying to defend his point for a while. It’s a natural progression to start to use power words to amplify your point of view after a while. We all do it.

If a anvil hits your foot, just saying “darn you anvil” doesn’t cut it…You have to break out the explosive amplifier words to give it the correct tone that needs to be expressed in that moment.

Well said. He went to personal attacks, so I responded in kind. Bad move on my part. Thanks for the advise.

Disparity does not equal discrimination. At the higher positions especially, those salaries are negotiated and there are many many factors that go into it not just job duties = X dollars. The ability to negotiate is a leg up in those scenarios.

We will find out more, maybe there are some emails that show they were actually discriminating, but I doubt it.

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It certainly is possible!

How do you know it was based on gender? They might be different genders but that doesn’t mean they were paid less BASED on their gender.

Sexual harassment plays out a lot like basic narc abuse. It’s death by 1,000 little cuts and a bunch of things said that can be taken a multitude of different ways. It’s never ever easy to catch and the people doing it are never ever dumb enough to be open about it.

That’s why this type of case is so difficult to prove.

However being a paid customer of Blizzard, I have noticed that they have these narc traits simply by how they treat me the customer. So I am more inclined to believe the women fighting this rather then Blizzard.

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Yes you can. You just lie about the number. Super easy; barely an inconvenience.

This will shock you, but the United States does not require that everyone be paid the same, even if you’re doing the same job.

I make substantially more money than the five other people on my team at work do, despite ostensibly all doing the same job, because I negotiated incredibly aggressively. Despite outright telling my coworkers what I was making and encouraging them to ask for more money, they just accepted the first offer the company floated them.

And for the record, they are all male (I work in IT, so this is common). Corporations will screw anyone they can, any way they can. Super villains don’t care about your gender.

Middle-management sexually harassing people and the C-suite ordering the payroll department to greedily hoard all of the money are not the same issue. Stop trying to conflate them.

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I have very little doubt Blizz is guilty on the sexual harassment stuff, at least to some degree. I’m waiting for the court case to be decided before I make a final judgement.

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A simple statistical survey can determine if there is a consistent correlation between gender and pay scales. If there is, then an investigation is in order to see why there is that correlation. The civil suit maintains the discrepancy is willful and toxic in nature.

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Understood :smiley:

We don’t disagree there but the point I was making was that statistical differences in pay between groups does not show that the pay was BASED on the group differences.

I suspect if you dug hard enough on any company you would find these same disparities. Heck the champion for this stuff, bernie, was a subject of a discrimination lawsuit as well.

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Agreed.

Good companies regularly run these checks to see if they are overlooking an unconscious bias or they have some problem managers or divisions. I remember getting an unexpected raise when this kind of a salary survey revealed my position was under paid.

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