A lot of people are saying let the court decide, I agree that there will need to be court reviews and decisions on the harassment claims. Yet the pay desparites is completely nailed on them.
Every state requires that businesses report every single cent earned per employee for tax purposes. To clarify I mean the total earnings per year, not he taxes their paying. Which means that it’s cut and dry by simply looking at the values to see whether there is a desparity or not. Yet there is and that’s what their being charged over it and I’m sorry you can wish upon a star and deny it till the cows come home until you come up with some convoluted answer as to why it’s wrong. With how the court with decide, yet it’s a clear labor law violation and thier going to be in serious legal and financial trouble over it. Heck they didn’t even try to defend themselves from it in their PR statement, which is telling enough.
Sadly as well this all seems common in the technology field as others I know have stated. Which is making it look more and more grim for the cast outlook, I don’t intend to quit. As I feel the bad ones will be weeded out through all of this. Which in turn will hopefully create a more healthy environment for both the company and the game itself.
Expect you need to prove the disparity is due to their some unlawful reason. Just because two programmer don’t get paid the same amount isn’t a crime. I make about $5 more an hour than some of my fellow programmers but that is due to my experience and outside training that they lack. All things that wouldn’t show up “for tax purposes”.
Considering the case filed they filed clearly stated desparites for employees that had the same experience level. If not more in some cases for the same job level they were working, is why I said what I said. I get there will be differences given experience and so forth. Heck that’s why different positions pay differently due to experience gained. Yet unless your suggesting every female employee basically did so bad that they got paid less and shook out to where they got paid less while the men got promoted more frequently along with earning bonuses. Really doesn’t make much sense at the end of the day is the issue.
That wasn’t my point. You made it seem like you could look at tax records and see a problem, when in fact that isn’t true. I never mentioned the court case, I was only pointing out your flawed logic.
Oh, I didn’t mean tax records as in taxes being paid per person given it will be different due to breaks and so forth. I’ll edit it to make it more clear, I meant the total earnings reported. That’s what’s u was getting at, that the total earnings per person across the entire company that is reported before taxes are taken out would show the desparites.
That’s not going to tell you either. The only way you could really know why two people are making different amounts is to look into their personnel file.
Bruh, did you read even read the lawsuit, if you paid attention or read it you would see how literally same skilled employees. Would be paid differently based on gender, in which the starting salaries for women was lower than the starting salaries for men, and the trend continued.
There’s still hours worked, whether they were locked into a contract and couldn’t negotiate a higher salary due to experience, might’ve been part-timers.
speculation of course but like you said, nobody here really knows anything so it’s really dumb for people to argue about it.
The law suit has NOTHING to do with my point. You make an inaccurate statement that someone how you could tell why someone is making less by looking at “some numbers”. That is not true and that was all I pointed out.
I am not saying that Blizzard didn’t pay them differently, what I am saying is your assumption was wrong.
Disparities in salary is fine as long as it’s not rooted in discrimination (sex, marital status, pre-existing health conditions). I manage a team of SysAdmins and if I had to start figuring out their salaries based purely on technical skill it would take me 75 hours to figure it out.
All my employees share their salary numbers and it gets wildly complicated when trying to explain why someone is 3% higher than another when you factor in things like previous years of work experience, competing offers when they joined, force ranking. I’m absolutely not saying a woman deserves to make less by default when they join, but if you’re wiggling around 1-10% difference it’s not a simple discussion.
Okay, blizzard shield gonna shield I guess, like the fallicies are real, what do you propose they use then? There is a tend is the issue, it’s not just a here there scenario, there is a CLEAR trend that can be followed. Keep shielding I guess, just gonna stop following this post at this point.
“We”, nothing because it’s not our job nor are we qualified. But if you are looking for an explanation, you need more information about the employees. Otherwise you have no factual basis to even start.
You don’t know that without grabbing payroll’s files. If there is a clear trend of women making 10% less then you have a problem. Some women coming out and saying they were making less for what they perceive to be equal skill doesn’t determine that a trend is present. Again, I’m not shilling for Blizzard, but outside of the armed forces this isn’t an easy one to have an opinion on based on Twitter posts.
Yeah, this is why the pay-gap is considered a myth.
There are various factors leading to someone else being paid more for the same factor, and overall, men just tend to be more aggressive in pursuing promotions and raises.
It is not something laws should change or be involved with, really. It is up to the individual to negotiate for themselves. If you want a raise or a promotion, make sure that you actually make yourself invaluable to the company, and then start negotiations. Yes it is confrontational, yes it can be uncomfortable, but that is life.
