They do not like, or respect any of you
They do not appreciate that you have been buying their product
They blatantly disrespect you when theyll ignore the countless threads and cries for help on retail, Just so they can go circleje** in their offices doing SoD class tuning
Unsub from this game, Stop making forums, Stop providing feedback, Stop trying to help them, Stop offering your time energy and money to this company and these people
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Hmm someone needs to copy their namesake and take a chill pill lol. Its the end of the season. They arnt going to make any changes until next. As for sod getting so much attention. Did anyone stop.and think that since it is expiremental that it doesnt really matter what happens on it if they make a mistake compared to retail lol.
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I agree with Chill on this one. FDK is in a really bad spot and has been for most of this xpac. We’ve provided so much feedback on the problems this spec has and what do we get in return? SOD tuning!
Its honestly a good time to unsub from retail.
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No, I have the right to be FURIOUS with the developers, A live service game should never have gaps of negligence especially when the other side projects they have are literally receiving more changes than the main game
I dont care if its a separate team or not doesnt excuse that they cant just hire another team to focus on RETAIL class balance
Just because YOU like to eat Shi* doesnt mean that I do
Dont care, Garbage excuse for them to not make changes to the game, I dont care if its the LAST DAY of the season if DH is op on that day it should be nerfed THAT day
Dont care if its experimental, Doesnt justify the lack of class tuning on retail
Class tuning should be something that happens at least once a month regardless of where we are at in the patch cycle. Buff under performers NONSTOP and nerf overperformers NONSTOP
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if you are furious over a video game its time to stop playing the video game its obviously unhealthy for you. as for balance changes thats not going to help you personally very much man sry to break it to you but most of your problems are going to come from between your chair and your key board.
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I don’t think they’re simply not working on a DK rework, I think it’s likely in the pipeline somewhere, but I don’t envy the dev working on it because the DK playerbase is eclectic and vague when it comes to stating what they want.
"Make it like ARTHAS…
NO NOT LIKE THAT!!!"
There are a few pain points that most dk players have like the reliance on death and decay for cleave, overreliance on cooldowns to do any damage at all, and the talent trees having a few too many nodes meaning we have less choice overall because we have to spend talents to become a functional class instead of spend talents to become stronger.
But even with these relatively unified complaints, you still have to redesign a fun and engaging experience around the theme of “death knight”, and I have no idea where you would start
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its at the bottom of the backlog, just below dance studios. 
i just want to point out that this is exclusively a M+ problem. for the rest of us that is a feature, not a problem.
that’s the real difficulty with reworking DK, you can’t do anything to help one group of DKs without majorly upsetting another group of DKs.
and realistically it doesn’t need a rework at all, just a damage tune so that output matches input effort. the problem is when damage for DK is tuned correctly we are top damage and people who can’t handle more than 2-3 buttons scream bloody murder when that happens.
the other issue is devs balancing us around their personal gripes. i 100% think the devs removed Raise Abomb because our class dev mains a rogue and was tired of being popped out of stealth in arena. devs shouldn’t be nerfing classes and making major changes to overcome their own personal lack of skill.
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If you actually believe this is happening you’re delusional.
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Personally my biggest gripe in DF has been how fragile, easily snarable and wetnoodley I feel still. Obliterate should hit like a freight train especially for 2h, and I should be able to just tank hits and keep on trucking.
Something like the old Focused Rage from Legion arms warrior would definitely go a long way to to fixing that.
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consider that everyone asked for Abomb to be moved to a choice node with army of the dead, everyone, its rare that pvp and pve dks agree on stuff, but the devs removed it instead.
consider that nerfing deathstrike is the first request of someone who just tried to PVE down a DK without any counter play and got mad the DK lived and self healed back up. thats the same level of play as blowing your CDs against a bubble, iceblock, or turtle shell hoping you can break it by just DPSing harder.
consider that spellwarden was nerfed and then removed as a talent.
consider that they overhauled reanimation, balanced it to out put equivilant dps to the old version, then nerfed the new version, making the revamp a nerf.
those are the kind of changes that make you question the devs skill,
thats not even getting to them straight up saying FDK is not to be viable in arena.
the devs who get to make the changes can’t play dk and can’t face dk and it shows in the kinds of changes they make.
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It’s been this way for a while frankly. I remember back during the Legion Alpha there was a whole kerfluffle about one of the big DK theorycrafters leaving because Blizz basically completely ignored the DK community for the entirety of the Alpha and Beta.
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that started with them coming in and trying to push a class identity on DK that we never had. when we disagreed with their vision, they stopped taking feedback.
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I’m still wondering where the soul torment fantasy of Arthas went. Supposedly that was supposed to be Frost. Instead we ended up with Lol Ice Mage Spell Blade But Bad.
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Yeah, yeah, everyone gets it you’re the real victim in all of this because the stuff you liked was nerfed or removed. Every class deals with this.
I’m much more concerned with the developers taking their time to design something that is satisfying, engaging, and fun. For both pve and pvp.
If you think you can do it be my guest.
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Not really on the level that DK does and not nearly as consistently.
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DK can be 5% ahead on meters or representation, and within a week we will get nerfed into the ground, all the way to the bottom of whatever metric you are counting. meanwhile other classes will be so far above the performance average that players will complain about them for months and nothing happens.
and even more fun is when one class is overperforming, so what do they do? they nerf DK. im not even joking. warrior MS was too OP last season so they nerfed necro wound, again.
keep in mind necro wound is a nerf compared to necrotic strike.
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Remember, we had fun one time during WotLK and now we’re never allowed to have fun ever again.
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dks issues in pve require talent changes more than flat buffs. there probably wont be much talent changes since all hands are on deck for tww
sod is in a space where it doesnt need much dev interaction for balancing changes since all the true power is behind runes.
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It already does? If it hits any harder than the rest of the kit will do even less than autos.
Literally the worst feedback that people keep pushing.
It really doesn’t. It hits like a slightly less than wet noodle, an upgrade from it’s previously wet noodle status. Look at DH, literally every ability in their kit hits harder than Oblit does and feels good to push.
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