I feel really bad for casuals trying to even compete in rated arenas and rbgs this season. Was doing some research on what kind of gear I would get by hitting Duelist this season lol…
|Rating|PvP |
|Unranked||233|
|Combatant (1400-1599)||239 ilvl|
|Challenger (1600-1799)||246 ilvl|
|Rival (1800-2099) |253 ilvl|
|Duelist (2100) |259 ilvl|
In all my years pvping in this game, I have never seen such a massive increase in item level going from one season into the other. Last season if you got Duelist, you were able to upgrade all your gear to 226. THIS season, hitting Duelist will allow you to upgrade your gear to a whopping 259 ilvl. That’s an increase of 33 item levels from the previous season. 
I understand now why all the casuals are just ditching WoW and going over to Final Fantasy. This is just bizarre.
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idk, i was prepared. casuals are gonna casual anyways.
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Nah, man. There are no casuals left in pvp. This season just started and it’s already dead on arrival. oof. 
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Nah, i’m still able to climb just feel bad for whoever is left playing this game with how messed up gearing is. Oh well. 
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everything is time gated so its not like its people playing 10+ hours a day getting the best loot.
Should change your name to Bloomsday. It would be more fitting. 
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dozer vs swolechef
brain lightweight title card
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Almost, but not quite tho. The winner of this bout will move on to battle current championship belt holder Murkk.
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whats with all these lvl 50s talking smack? like imagine being such a try hard
How is this any different than 200ilvl - 226ilvl S1?
59 - 33 = 26?
Aka 2 weeks ago
Stop trying so hard to farm likes or being Abombs son.
I got banned, took a month off and started a fresh toon that hit 60 on 6/25
It took me a week and a half to hit 226 PvE set and ~224 PvP set with 2 honor pieces even still
Gearing effeciently/effectively is a bare bones min skill in this game.
You wouldn’t go play any other competitive game with zero knowledge
Jump STRAIGHT into rated, then go cry on the forums about getting curbstomped
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You wouldn’t go into any other competitive game and be at both a skill disadvantage AND a gear one. Most other competitive games aren’t dumb enough to design competitive modes that way.
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There’s always GW2 then friend
Or league, rocket League, cod, fortnite… Most of those which I’ve played more of lately and all have more people that play them than wow arena. Funny that.
Yea most ppl don’t play MMO’s for a PvP experience
Legion tried to nearly eliminate gear from the equation and that didn’t do much for the problem either
Not everyone can be satisfied apparently OR ppl actually just running over lesser geared players.
Maybe not the posters here who want a truly competitive experience but we’re only a small slice of the pie
Those games are all first and foremost PvP games
Ppl playing a Niche mini-game in a niche genre and pickachu facing when it’s not a prio for money grubbing acti-blizz.
I’m not saying it’s right mind you. Just how it is
but I don’t think its the most horrible thing ever and this game is dead and the worst game ever like you see ppl talk
These games are not MMO-RPGs. Apples to oranges comparison.
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Played wow classic through mop then came back for shadowlands and SL PvP gearing is by far the most horrific abomination of a system I’ve ever seen. The fact it made it into the second patch virtually as is makes me question the cognitive abilities of the devs at blizzard.
It’s like they’re actively trying to kill their game and deter people from getting into pvp
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I posted this in another thread as well.
Right now we have this.
| Rating |
PvE |
PvP |
| Unranked |
220 |
233 |
| Combatant (1400-1599) |
226 |
239 |
| Challenger (1600-1799) |
233 |
246 |
| Rival (1800-2099) |
240 |
253 |
| Duelist (2100) |
246 |
259 |
What if we moved to something like this? Would a 5 ilvl gap between ranks become better or is that not enough? The idea is to keep pve ilvl the same so that salty pve nerds don’t cry about being forced into pvp.
| Rating |
PvE |
PvP |
| Unranked |
220 |
240 |
| Combatant (1400-1599) |
226 |
245 |
| Challenger (1600-1799) |
233 |
250 |
| Rival (1800-2099) |
240 |
255 |
| Duelist (2100) |
246 |
259 |
Edit: If it’s too much the breakdown could even be 250 > 252 > 254 > 256 > 259
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I mean they used to? Mop and wod holinkas tweeted that as many people pvpd as pved.
I mean I bet it still does better than SL by a long shot?
Except for a very long time it wasn’t… Until Blizzard decided to go absolutely hog wild with bad design choices lol…
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How long ago was that tho, also was that before there were 4 sets of difficulty tiers?
I honestly don’t know, SL PvE side ppl love it
I just think Mobas, Battle Royals and FPS games can’t really be compared to Adventure MMOs when it comes to competitive PvP
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They could absolutely do more but there’s not much incentive, think we all already know this. Arena just takes collateral hit after hit because of M+ and Raiding.
Just listen to Holinka in that interview, its crazy how little power it sounds he has to overhaul PvP systems
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