DH and DK just did 20mill in this solo shuffle while I did…10mill. They can’t let us be good for a couple months?
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I haven’t done a shuffle yet but, can you shed some light on the matchup? Feral still seems to be doing good dmg from the 2’s I did as well as the 3’s I queued into yesterday.
I just did my first 6 games, It was the usual melee cleave I believe I remember DH, DK, and Warrior probably? I was doing what I always do cleaving everything down but my damage was WAY less than the other melee. I also checked my recount and was dead last where I’m usually first or second. I have not read the changes so I am not sure if I am using the wrong talents or something. Just hopped in a game and started shredding everyone down like usual
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I had this same issue last night. Felt terrible. DMG meters were reporting about half my dmg with the typical play style. Maybe we need to change rotations with the new buff to Ferocious Bite? It could be the usual aoe rotations aren’t ideal anymore. :(. Would love to see some new guides.
Hrm, well that doesn’t jive with that I’ve been seeing is all. I mean you definitely will end up lower than pre patch but it shouldn’t be like a super drastic amount.
Maybe it was just a bad lobby? I mean I don’t know how long the games lasted, if you sent dmg into defensive cds or were bear a lot or what so, it’s hard to say too much. I’ll maybe try my own shuffle later this afternoon with my ST build and see what’s up.
Do you have tier yet?
I have 2 piece set. Before patch I was doing like 60 to 80k by the end of a mythic. Now I’m lucky if I’m at 38! Same play style so maybe that’s the problem? Should I Primal Wrath less and Bite cleave more in packs? Would love to start seeing some videos/guides on new rotations :D. Anyway, thanks for the reply.
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Ah dungeon, I have no experience with that man. I can’t help ya in that regard, sorry. I’m not sure what would cause a 50% dps loss though. That seems off.
Some points from doing m+, I’ve found myself biting more and seen a slight dps increase for AoE for myself. ST I want to say I lost dps but that just may be my talents for m+. For AoE pulls I just get primal wrath off and start biting then refresh as needed. I do still think PW spam is the best choice for large pulls but I would still weave apex bites in those.
Lion strength is really nice to use now since I am biting more and don’t have BT for every finisher.
Yo Zuure, I peeked at your talents, just curious, do you normally not use Swarm? (Off topic sry for the hi-jack but genuinely curious)
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Pretty much only use it in purely ST fights in raids. Pretty much don’t touch it everywhere else. I might look into more, but I am still getting used to the changes.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a new bee build for m+ though.
I’m leaning toward ditching it. I did t get to test out / play much last night, but I remember wanting that point for something else. Might have to send the kids to bed early so I can get more into this…
Yeah im mad cuz I grinded the pvp conquest weapon and now its useless cuz I gotta swap to boomy and re grind the weappon.
Flapz how are you setting up burst with the new tree? I saw you using New Moon in your talents have you been running that? I am still not 100% sure I am bursting correctly on single target with Boomy
I’m trying two different builds in SS. The typical cleave one and also a ST bite based build. I’m only having very minor success with the cleave build since the ST build that takes clone seems to need a lot more setup.
Overall though the biggest issue I’m having is that my survivability is just awful. Some games against a war and dh I’ll have to be sitting bear a lot if I can’t kite away easily. One game with my ST build I had thorns as my top damage because I was trained into the ground and forced to go bear and keep up thorns as much as I can.
Very demoralizing.
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I’m sure that’s a bit dramatic yeah? if you prefer feral, just play feral.
I’ve tried moon a couple times but I find myself using FoE mostly. I’ve also been toying with not using astral communion… it’s all experimental atm. Really annoying having to choose which talents I don’t want that I used to have. I think I’m pretty set on my current build but I need to decide if I want one point in BoAT and AC, or just both in BoAT.
Regardless, burst is still pretty much the same. Full AP, dotted ofc, pop incarn/orbital strike, dump surges, mushrooms, WoE if you get the 3 stack tier (even better if umbral procs too) and just slam as many instants as you can. If you take AC, ofc reload yourself when you get low on AP. Nothing new really.
This is a super common playstyle I see but you really shouldn’t be bear except to frenzy, or when your healer is cc’d for a long time, or maybe in a situation where you get war speared and can’t move. Outside of that, you should be staying 8 yards away, using procs on instant root to dance around and stun and what not. Boomy players often do the same thing of sitting in bear way, way too much. If you do that, you’ll just lose the game slower, you’ll never win.
Time out boomy has instant root procs?
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No, that response was feral related.
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Gotcha i was like how did i miss that
That hurts so bad to read it made me laugh.
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Hmm ty for that. I’ll have to try to use roots more when melee is on me then go cheetah for a second to leap away or just stay cat and get range.
Have you tried the ST bite build yet? I’ve been using one with clone but I’m thinking of dropping clone for some more tankier bear talents since trying to setup go’s with clone in SS is super hard and I feel incredibly squishy now.