Watching a streamer pull the entire sm cath with a 60 mage and aoe it down. Everyone else in the party is sub-40 and they are getting FULL XP. They are leveling in under an hour. They are not doing any type of mob tagging stuff - the 60 is staying in the group the whole time. There is supposed to be an XP penalty when you have a very high level player in the group. This does not appear to be working.
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Shut up. This isnât an exploit.
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Are you sure itâs FULL xp? Because back in Vanilla being carried through dungeons was in fact a legitimate power leveling strategy. The xp reduction wasnât nearly as bad as it is in BFA, where you are actually completely handicapping yourself if you bring a higher level along. And unlike BC, and Wrath, the level difference between the person doing the run and the people they are running is much smaller.
Are you sure you arenât projecting this as an exploit because you donât have anyone to run YOU through dungeons?
Edit:
In fact Iâm not even sure that xp being reduced due to a higher level being in the party even ever was a thing back in Vanilla.
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Yeah heâs getting 185 xp per kill on his 37 which is appropriate for the level. Thereâs clearly no reduction at all. This was never in vanilla, if you wanted to do stuff like this you had to use mob-tagging, where the 60 doing all the damage was not in the party.
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Well, you say âVery high levelâ but the difference in level is, what, just over 20 levels? Thatâs not really that much. Like I said, not even sure if there WAS a mechanic that reduced xp gains if someone was a higher level, and not sure what level that person would need to be for that reduction to kick in if it is in place.
If itâs an exploit, Blizz will shut it down, but somehow I donât think it is because this was the most common form of power leveling back in Vanilla made popular by Hobbs.
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Youâd think that would be closer to 20-70exp per kill instead.
Even in Wrath when you had level 80 players running level 15-20 players through Deadmines you would see them getting insane amounts of xp, and that was a 60+ level difference.
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There is no xp reduction at all, it is clearly not working
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Iâve noticed that people get nearly full exp from when a high level is in their party. This is not vanilla like at all.
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As I said, there may not be a thing to BE working. A level difference of only about 20 or so levels may not lower the xp gains at all.
Also⌠185 xp doesnât sound like a lot for that level range⌠in fact thereâs just no way. Because level 1⌠if you kill a level 1 you get about 67 xp. Elites in this game give double xp, so youâd get 134 xp. DUNGEON elite mobs give 2.5x xp, so if a level 1 were to kill a level 1 dungeon elite mob⌠they would get about 167 xp.
Youâre telling me that 20 more xp than a level 1 would get, for a level 40ish player, is âlevel appropriateâ?
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Yes I have been spamming sm for the past several levels in a level-appropriate party and I know exactly how much xp you should be getting. 185 xp is the correct amount with no reduction.
Youâre doing a lot of mental gymnastics to derail this thread. You clearly have a vested interest in defending this behavior. Iâm not going to respond to you any more as this is not a discussion forum. This forum is to raise bug reports and let Blizzard evaluate them.
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There is a bug report system in the game. Blizzard does not want you creating threads to be used as bug reports.
Iâm sorry that me disagreeing with you and suggesting that it might not be the game breaking exploit that you believe it is triggers you so badly that you have to get upset and throw a fit over it.
Iâm not derailing the thread. We are entirely on topic.
Get over yourself.
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Blizzard does not want you creating threads to be used as bug reports.
WE ARE IN THE BUG REPORT FORUM
Iâm not derailing the thread. We are entirely on topic. Get over yourself.
You literally started your first response with an ad hominem âAre you sure you arenât projecting this as an exploit because you donât have anyone to run YOU through dungeons?â
Iâm seriously done responding to you. Imagine trolling the bug reports forum.
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You know what, youâre right on that one, my bad. I sort of just clicked on this from a recent posts thread.
The point still stands however, that all I have said is that it might not be an exploit. That Iâm not even sure there was a system in Vanilla that lowered xp if a higher level was in the party, and also saying that Iâm not sure a 20ish level difference would be enough to lower the xp gains.
Again, Iâm sorry that that triggers into claiming that something so simple is âMental Gymnasticsâ but again, get over yourself.
Oh but sorry, suggesting something isnât what you think it is is trolling. LOL. Go back to your safe space.
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I wouldnt say trolling but many dont like it when even by your own admission you didnt know if it was an exploit or not and just assumed it was. I would suggest asking next time if your unsure before jumping to its an exploit, many people are more willing to be nice and not snarky when you ask a question. I understand it may not look right since many of people are used to modern wow.
Watching a streamer pull the entire sm cath with a 60 mage and aoe it down. Everyone else in the party is sub-40 and they are getting FULL XP. They are leveling in under an hour. They are not doing any type of mob tagging stuff - the 60 is staying in the group the whole time. There is supposed to be an XP penalty when you have a very high level player in the group. This does not appear to be working.
The attitude you approach makes many see you as being ignorant with this post and rightfully want to correct you. All I can say is simply ask next time if this was a thing in vanilla, people arent as harsh when you ask a question honestly.
Just saying, you can pull the âItâs not a discussion forumâ card all you want but if thatâs the case then why does Blizzard allow players to post here? Itâs so that when people like you come along posting a big thread in full caps that âYET ANOTHER XP EXPLOITâ (Even though what do you mean âyet anotherâ⌠there has been like, one other one.) we can point out to you that itâs probably not an exploit, and itâs actually how the game works.
As I have said more than once already, there are two possibilities:
Firsly, Vanilla WoW might not have had a system where having a higher level player in the group lowered the xp you would gain.
Secondly, you are talking about level 40ish players being run through a dungeon by a level 60. That is only a level 20+ gap between them and I donât think that would be enough to reduce the xp by the other party members.
After these suggestions I literally said:
âIf itâs an exploit, Blizz will shut it downâ
But youâre right. Iâm trying to âderail the threadâ and âtrollingâ.
I used to power level people through SM cath all the time back in vanilla. This is no bug or exploit. Itâs just a great way to earn xp for the carry⌠and gold for the runner.
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The question that hasnât been asked is âDoes this behavior faithfully reproduce the behavior of the WoW 1.12 vanilla environment?â
Because itâs not a bug if itâs doing what WoW did back in the day, and I remember that XP reduction for being carried was a comparitvely recent innovation.
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I had a few characters power leveled by a paladin in BC doing this.
Sorry you donât have friends OP.
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Youâre wrong and should stop posting.
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