Yet another guild bank post

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

This topic has been exhastively covered and rehashed, but it’s basically because actual vanilla raiders who had to manage guild banks know that the guild bank is necessary and with the harder enforcement on the restriction on account sharing a guild bank is necessary to approximate the guild banking of vanilla wow.

Exactly this. This is what I’ve been trying to convey to people for the last 18 months, but “muh vanilla”.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

I consider anything in the content release plan as “in classic at launch”

So of they announce that as part of the content release plan on would be fine with it. But it has to be announced that it is happening. Because they likely won’t add it as an. After thought later due to the reason I already stated.

[Anadann-icecrown]

So what you’re basically saying is that the game should be catered to raiders. It seems to me that making raiding the focus of the game has been done somewhere before. I can’t quite place my finger on it, but I’m almost certain I can recall decisions being made that would do something to get more players raiding… I wish I could remember what it was.

Oh well, I’m sure it’ll come to me eventually.

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

So what you’re basically saying is that the game should be catered to raiders.

facepalm

You just don’t get it.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

@Bornakk

Hey all, just wanted to make everybody aware that we made an update to the original post with the following information:

We saw some confusion about a specific part of this post so we want to be clear that Customer Service will NOT be transferring items in WoW Classic and the system that we outlined will be in the players’ hands. If we were to go down the road of developing a policy on item trading, we believe it would end up allowing the exact same kind of abuse that we are trying to minimize with the 2-hour trade window system which we outlined in the original post.

Ninja looting does have consequences in the community and those who do it will have trouble getting invited to group. In other words: your reputation will matter. Remember to play nice, play fair folks!

This seems to suggest they’re not going to do anything about theft from guild bank alts either.

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

This seems to suggest they’re not going to do anything about theft from guild bank alts either.

I don’t see the words “guild bank” in there

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

@Starman-zangarmarsh

I don’t see the words “guild bank” in there

Yep. But intelligent people can use extrapolation.

@Bornakk

Customer Service will NOT be transferring items in WoW Classic and the system that we outlined will be in the players’ hands.

Kinda hard to restore the items someone walked away with, if they’re not transferring items in WoW Classic.

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

Or they’ll have a guild bank system in place for the players to manage.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Or they’ll have a guild bank system in place for the players to manage.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

There is a difference between misclicked loot distribution and scamming people.

If loot rules were stated before a raid then during loot distribution they go against stated rules it’s MUCH more likely blizzard will do something vs a misclicked loot distribution.

Blizzard is not saying they won’t deal with extreme cases.

Sure they might not restore items, but depending on the severity of the action (stealing an entire guilds resources) there will likely be punishment in other forms for that thief from both blizzards side and the community.

Blizzard might not restore the stolen items to the guild. But that doesn’t mean they will let the thief keep it as well. Especially if they suspect the thief of being a Susan sells gold with how they act after the theft.

Edit: it also has to be brought to the communitys attention that the thief is a thief and the guild bank system does that a lot better than the blind Faith of the guild bank alt system.

So even if blizzard leaves it up to us to police ourselves the guild bank system is still better for that than the guild bank alt system.

[Fesz-cenarius]

@Starman-zangarmarsh

Or they’ll have a guild bank system in place for the players to manage.

Didn’t you say that Classic was supposed to an “authentic experience” and that you wanted the “authentic experience”?

That’s right, you DID.

Allow me to quote you:

@Starman-zangarmarsh

…and Classic is supposed to be an “authentic experience”

@Starman-zangarmarsh

Which is irrelevant because I want the “authentic experience” in Classic.

I guess either you’ve changed your stance on guild banks or you are lying, possibly to further one of your goals.

[Zulimbasha-sisters-of-elune]

Guild banks came in Burning Crusade. We didn’t have them in vanilla. We’re not getting them in classic.

Next!

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

I guess either you’ve changed your stance on guild banks or you are lying, possibly to further one of your goals.

I also stated “security > authenticity”.

For the sake of security.

Man, you’re so desperate for attention, especially now that you made it clear you’re in favor of QoL additions such as flying and mogging.

[Fesz-cenarius]

I guess either you’ve changed your stance on guild banks or you are lying, possibly to further one of your goals.

I also stated “security > authenticity”.

For the sake of security.

Man, you’re so desperate for attention, especially now that you made it clear you’re in favor of QoL additions such as flying and mogging.

Maybe one of these days, you will learn not to lie. I’m not going to hold my breath, though.

Anyone can do a simple forum search for posts written by me using the terms transmog and/or flying to see that I have always opposef those things being in Classic.

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

Anyone can do a simple forum search for posts written by me using the terms transmog and/or flying to see that I have always those things being in Classic.

I’m still waiting for your links. You may want to listen to your own advice about lying.

“always those”. You meant to type “always wanted those”, correct?

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Off-topic real quick, you’re going to be playing on a PvP server right?

[Fesz-cenarius]

Anyone can do a simple forum search for posts written by me using the terms transmog and/or flying to see that I have always those things being in Classic.

I’m still waiting for your links. You may want to listen to your own advice about lying.

“always those”. You meant to type “always wanted those”, correct?

Actually, I meant opposed.

Thank you for pointing that out. I will edit the post.

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

Thank you for pointing that out. I will edit the post.

You mean cover yourself?

[Fesz-cenarius]

Off-topic real quick, you’re going to be playing on a PvP server right?

If Classic is “authentic” enough, I will play on both PVE and PVP servers, just as I did in vanilla.

[Hothwompa-coilfang (Hothwompa)]

In terms of authenticity all we can really hope for at the end of the day is that blizzard makes the game feel vanilla like as possible in 2019.

No body has delusions that we will get a 2004-2006 experience back. But what we can hopefully get is that authentic feeling.

So for me (remember I don’t mind either way if banks make it in) positing an idea for IF guild banks are on the table for classic, that they are implemented in such a way as to feel as authentic as possible having a post 2.2 system in vanilla.

That being like I posited in my op.

My idea could potentially allow for guild banks in classic while mostly keeping, if not totally keeping the vanilla feel. The idea is for the creation of a purchasable guild rank called the ‘quartermaster’.

The quartermaster once assigned would gain access to a bank page at their personal bank similar to live guild banks but just one page. Only the quartermaster would be able to access the bank and if the quartermaster is demoted to a non quartermaster rank they lose that access and nothing is lost just awaits a new quartermaster.

Transparency comes in the form of the guild ledger that shows all transactions. Players in the guild can look at the bank page but not be able to take stuff only deposit. Or maybe not even deposit maybe all transactions must go through the quartermaster.

There could even be some kind of lock that the gm and officers have to unlock to allow the quartermaster to give certain items to a player sort of like the loot council system in that its a guild effort to divvy up certain loot.

And to make it a gold sink the rank of quartermaster and its perk of the extra bank access could cost say 2000 gold or more.

This seems similar to like how it was in vanilla. Ive read that in vanilla a guild member would basically be the quartermaster, presumably someone that the gm and officers found trustworthy.

They would handle the duties of storing and inventorying guild assets. And sometimes they would create and provide online access to a spreadsheet that allowed guildees to see what was in the guilds inventory. But again it was all trust.