They did it for Castle Nathria with dungeon gear.
Why would someone who’s trying to succeed intentionally gimp themselves?
In “last tiers bis” they wouldn’t have even hit the dps check for sylvannas. Specially with how powerful dom sockets ended up being.
They have to shove basically 4+ weeks worth of gearing into one week by doing splits to clear sylvannas week one.
None of them like splits, which is why they would much rather lower the gear requirement and increase the skill requirement, even if that meant sales were harder or impossible. Hell, I bet top guilds would LOVE not to do sales, they’d rather go play other things than keep running sales until the next patch.
so gear matters more than skill
Negative.
These players are clearing the raid faster than anyone else with less gear than anyone else because they have more skill than anyone else.
Hope this helps.
I mean I timed a 17 on the first week of season 2 release and got my ksm the second week(as soon as it was possible) that was in my 226 gear from the earlier teir. You don’t think I would have been able to carry people through plus 10s at that point? Obvs gear helps but you also can’t be terrible at the game
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wow, the worlds best players in the best gear currently available did the hardest tuned raid, whats that? this is Nth patch in a row they’ve done that? how very exciting /s
despite the fact that epic bgs are casual content, and despite the fact that i have won thousands of games, i can’t guarantee you a win. yet a mythic raider with less than 20 total clears can guarantee you a CE kill if the price is right. funny how one is considered harder than the other.
let’s test your theory. pick 20 random GD posters, give them full 252 gear with rank 5 shards. see how many pulls it takes them to kill M Sylvanas. i’m guessing 1,000+.
Of course and then they sell carry, canceling the difficulty for the one who pays it, and you can pay it with real money through buying gold with the Token, therefore it is a P2W system.
If you can use real money in any way to bypass the established difficulties of the game it is a P2W, it does not matter if someone before you did not.
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I’d never downplay that equally geared pvp takes skill.
But the things these guys do in the first weeks of a raid do too.
There is nothing difficult about Eve whatsoever. Yes it’s a brutal sandbox as you said, but let’s not conflate brutality for difficulty
You miss the part where generally you are completely blocked from reaching that point without paying in p2w.
You can easily make gold enough for a carry without buying a token, or you know… “gitgud” and do it yourself, nothing in the game is stopping you. There’s no artificial roadblock like in an actual p2w game.
So you think it is ok that a player paid for all their gear then joins a raid or M+ and has no skill to actually play? That’s great.
So the guy that earned his gear can carry the guy who paid for his right?
Are leaders not checking these things? We’ve been doing this since Vanilla, you don’t just check gear, you check experience. (unless it’s a normal raid or a low +, you could just lfg that)
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a carry sure, but do that every season? you’d have to do every single calling, farm mats constantly and be playing the AH. if all you wanted to do was spam random bgs after a long hard day at work, thats a tall order, too tall for most players. hence why they have tokens for sale.
but what if you are are gud but are happy with the gear you have? well too bad, the people who purchased carries are coming for you, and in the current pvp meta, they win by default and there is little to nothing you can do about it.
This sounds like the classic “if you don’t have the achievement you won’t enter”, but to do the achievement I have to do the fight, but I can’t do the fight without the achievement XD
checking experience doesn’t mean that necessarily. i’ve gotten AOTC in pugs.
Don’t you people have cell ph…I mean, WoW tokens?
PvP carries really are on thing that should be banned, they can directly impact peoples gameplay far more than any PvE carry ever could.
Like, i see that problem, but then I usually see a few groups in there that are progressing.
Problem is, people don’t want to progress, they want to go in and just get the kill, whether they’ve already done it or not.
And groups that ask for the achieve are usually one of two things:
- a group just looking to quick clear with no issues and only wants people who have done the raid before so they have to do the bare minimum of explaining
or
- someone who’s never done it before and doesn’t even meet their own requirements looking for a quick carry (don’t just check your applicants, check the leader, so many times they’re just looking for a carry.
If you’re ever making your own groups, be honest about who you are and what you’re looking for /shrug.
Here’s a tip.
If you’re paying that much money to play this game you’re doing it wrong or you’re just an idiot.
I don’t get it. To me it just shows that if you pay for a run you don’t have the skill to climb the actual ladder. Hence paying for your gear. Oh and btw you can’t tell skill from gear score or m plus rating or really anything in game lol.