Ya Know.. Looking Back...A lot Could Have Been Avoided if

Except I dont enjoy it. I dont enjoy gimping myself at one thing to be better at another. Its horrible design and I hate it every single time I log in.

Chopping my legs off at the knees is a great decision for that limbo competition I signed up for, but severely limits my ability to compete in the 400m race. Lame.

Dude I was not even talking about the class ability. Iā€™ve already responded to your initial statement. Try again. I was drawing a comparison between selecting a class and choosing a covenant.

Iā€™m sorry that it makes you feel that strongly, Emnyte.

just let them blame the covenant for them not clearing harder content

its obvious they dont think its a L2P issue and a balance issue instead :rofl:

Hot take coming from King normal clear with a +3 key.

Emnyte has cleared pretty high content. I wouldnā€™t say itā€™s a L2P issue.

Thereā€™s a better way to disagree than to make remarks about someone performance/ability.

your point being?

If even i can see it then yaā€™ll have no excuse :rofl:

P.S. Iā€™m using a suboptimal covenant for my spec. Noone is saying it canā€™t be done, it just sucks, bro. Iā€™d love to play with all the new covenant abilities, rather than just being locked to a single one.

yeah but watching people freak out over this endlessly is getting tiring and rather annoying

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I just dont understand why these two are fighting so hard to prove a point, that is by and large disproven statistically, on a large scale.

Also I dont get the argument that these limitations and restrictions in this specific video game (Not Other Games, Just WoW) improve the player experience. Especially because by removing them, the aspect of the gameplay they are supporting, would remain completely unchanged.

then keeping doing what your doing, weā€™re seeing nerfs and buffs things are going to flip flop they always do. be it specs, talents or entire classes

guess what they all have viability even if they arent FotM

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How is that an argument for your point? People who want to min max will min max, some people have fun doing stuff like that. Why is laughing in their faces and ridiculing them for feeling like they should swap covenants every mid tier and new tier patch because of wild swings cool?

Unsure what you are claiming I am saying here. Please quote me where what I have said goes against the statistics.

then min-max

just dont get annoyed that that talent you enjoy isnt FotM

EXACTLY!! Their argument is people should just enjoy the game they want to. EXCEPT for people who dont enjoy the game in the same way that they do.

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If blizzard put the time they put into systems into class design, new talents, pvp, questing, crafting, dynamic events and instance design I feel everyone would be happier.

Not sure why I am being looped into this, but if putting words in my mouth is your status quo, Iā€™m done here. \o

Sorry if it seems that way. Not my intention. Let me ask you a constructive question to promote a healthy discussion to better understand where you are coming from.

In what way, do you feel, that being able to swap covenant class abilities in the way we swap talents, would negatively affect your gaming experience? Just you personally. I dont want to fall into the pit of not wanting to understand an opinion that doesnt align with my own.

Same question above. Just to try to redirect the discussion into being informative and being productive in trying to understand your points and opinions better.

Lol everyone goes Night Fae/Necro to do Arenas/BGs! Lots of fun!
Lame, bro.

because it invalidates my choice, if my choice can be undone in 5 minutes was it really a choice in the first place?

edit: i also dont understand how people cant just play whats fun and move on

Sure! To me atleast a Covenant choice is like a class choice. When you choose a class that you love you stick with it.

Swapping out that covenant ability for anotherā€™s a whim one completely reduces the impact of making that decision. You overcome the hurdles and complete the content you want with the struggles/advantages that brings.