Yet we have prenerf Ulduar.
each class in wotlk has at least one strong pve talent tree and one strong pvp talent tree
are you telling me that paladins using ret are not viable in pvp nor pve?
SpOilEr aLerT: The classic raiding scene is no nerfs for all the content it while it is in the current tier. Its been this way the entire time
Why is it that most private servers use progressive balancing patches but then people assume that Blizzard, a 60 Billion dollar company, can’t balance their game.
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It was a change that was cited as going to happen sooner than later in dev talks leading up to ulduar release.
You seem dramatic lol.
Because they had to manually un-nerf the fights. Their team likely had to comb back through ancient patch notes to retroactively undo those nerfs.
Yep, which means the people asking for them to do the same with ret have some ground to stand on.
I would prefer they took a heavier hand with balancing across the board, but I am not the developer and I don’t speak for everyone. There are those who want to keep this pure, but pure doesn’t exist here anymore.
Pre-Nerf Ulduar was one of the biggest promises of Wrath Classic.
Class balance was not. We’ve known for years that Ret is bad in 3.3.5, and we’ve known since the announcement that we’d be playing on 3.3.5.
If you rolled Ret and were disappointed anyway, that’s 100% on you. You should’ve known better. The information was out there.
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Typical yes-man take here. Not everyone wants to play a tank or healer. This also isn’t in line with the original Ret paladin experience. Its wild how much people don’t want balanced DPS numbers in classic wow. Just ridiculous.
Wahhhh how dare someone can’t kill a hardmode boss week 1 or 2 that isnt even required
Shut up and stop crying. Boss was fine with more gear and a stacked comp
For most guilds this was a math problem. Not lets whine about it because i cant have have a remote challenge.
You and all these people whining for xt nerfs are just unbelievably stupid
Then give us post nerf raids with post nerf classes. Or adjust classes manually with the data proving that underperformers need buffs the same way they manually adjusted Ulduar.
The biggest irony is Ret isn’t even good in PvP. And by PvP, I’m referring to high level Arena. Now, if the poster was confusing Ret with Preg, that’s a different discussion.
Was so much nicer back in the day where you had several dozen attempts on a boss and still couldnt kill it. These sissies now cry when they cant kill a boss in 5 attempts and 10 days. We dont need a nerf, this phase is gonna be 5 months long and well have plenty of time blizzard. FIX YOUR BOTTING AND YOUR BUGS SINCE SEPTEMBER LAUNCH.
When you’re working through mechanics, progression is fun. When the boss has way too much hp to even come close to killing, it’s not fun. It’s also not supposed to be the hardest boss in the raid.
Yogg0 is pretty hard, have you tried it? I’m guessing not.
Problem is all these yes-men want to think “buff” means make ret S tier. Nope. Just bring it within 10% of the top like the rest of the DPS classes. Saying “paladins have 2 good other specs” is a big joke. They have 2 good other ROLES. Its not like a bad hunter spec, where there’s no viable DPS option, because there is, they have 2 other viable options in the same ROLE
viable option =/= viable DPS option
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Can you shut up about it already? Completely off topic to the post - nobody cares about RDF anymore because you sit there screaming it into their face all day that they become so turned off about it that they now actively rally against it to spite you. It’s like you are trying to sell extended car warranties or something
And like that other guy said - I’m not trying to queue into a dungeon with a tank in greens that doesnt speak english and DCs and lag wipes the group every other minute
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Ret is a spec, not a class. And the Paladin class is doing just fine.
Full clear with 2 hard modes in the first week. Yeah ive tried it. We dont cry for an extra 2 pieces of loot. It hasnt even been 2 weeks since its been out.
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if RDF was in the game we wouldn’t have needed the nerf to XT-002
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I don’t even see any actual legitimate guilds complaining about XT. its the forums (who have dumb takes) and reddit. XT was fine. this nerf is dumb especially for a hardmode that heres the kicker is optional