Blizz doesn’t use scalpels.
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Not to mention that Ragnaros went out post nerf which cut his health and damage by huge values
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There’s only 16 Subtlety Rogues in the world that have killed Ignis on 25M. Despite that, the top Sub Rogue on Ignis beat the top Ret Paladin by 400 DPS. That Rogue is using an ilvl 213 dagger, btw.
If there were good guilds taking, and good players playing Sub Rogues, they’d be beating Ret on most fights by a decent margin.
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It’s true. I love my Fury brethren. I feel you brotha. I wish they had tweaked you guys as well.
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C’mon my guy, even for you, this is a bad take. With how difficult it is currently and top tier guilds that are class stacking DK’s and Locks can’t do it, that means even with full Ulduar bis its probably still very unlikely to down XT hard mode in its current state. Ulduar should’ve never been released ‘pre-nerf’ for reasons like this. Xt is also the 4th boss in the raid, this level of difficulty should’ve been left for Algalon and Yogg, not a boss like XT.
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Correct. I should have said “the” reason, there were several reasons.
The players in the absolute best guilds in the world are still mostly below 226 ilvl, despite running multiple split runs each week etc etc etc. So they’re not even averaging Maly/EOS/Normal Ulduar level gear yet…
In a month that average will be closer to 235, these bosses will be falling over and you cry babies will be complaining about how easy everything is.
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Even with theoretical HM bis, guilds would not meet this dps check.
That’s fine. We know Ulduar will be nerfed eventually. So nerf XT when they nerf everything else. No reason they need to nerf it now because it doesn’t fall over when you look at it. You don’t need to kill XT HM. It’s not required for progression to other bosses in the raid. It’s not even counted on WCL. Why does everything have to be instantly obtainable for you people.
If in a month with a few dozen more pieces of 239 gear guilds are still struggling then sure, lets talk. But retuning 2 weeks in is a knee-jerk reaction.
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Oh ok wow you’ll tune this but ret paladin is where you draw the line. If your going to balance then just balance. Otherwise don’t touch it. What is wrong with you, you guys are so inconsistent in where the “no changes” line is drawn. LEAVE IT ALL ALONE OR FIX IT ALL.
At least with warriors I know our time to go super saiyan will come! Rets need a very small buff to make them viable. Its the only spec in wotlk I advocate for buffing because they’re broken the entire expansion. Even though I play warrior I don’t want changes to them because its a slippery slope.
I actually find it hilarious that you cherrypicked the only fight a sub rogue beat out a ret paladin to make this comment. Kudos to that
Spoiler Alert: Nerfing XT is in-line with “no changes,” as he was nerfed very early on back in 2009, too.
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You just don’t know how to properly analyze and interpret the data on logs. It’s okay, it’s not a big deal.
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Does a world of nuance not exist to you?
The problem is, it doesn’t fall over at all. If a boss is unkillable upon its release then it was bad design in the first place. Even Blizzard knows that if top guilds can’t topple a boss in 2 weeks, something is terribly wrong.
(2009-08-05): “XT-002 Deconstructor will spawn in more adds for the regular 10-man raid. Focus on the extra Boombots that walk with the little Scrapbots so that they explode destroying the Scrapbots and each other. Before the patch, AoE from the players was used to bring the scrapbots down.”
(2009-08-05): “XT-002 Deconstructor will now spawn in fewer adds.”
(2009-06-11): “The XT-002 Deconstructor encounter has received the following changes: the health of the heart has been slightly reduced in heroic difficulty and the rate at which Gravity Bomb and Searing Light are cast has been reduced.”
(2009-05-19): “The hit point increasing hard mode ability for XT-002 Deconstructor has been reduced to 50% in the 10 player Normal setting, and 60% in the 25 player Heroic setting. The corresponding damage increase for XT-002 has also been reduced to 15%. Life Sparks also have half of their previous hit point values.”
(2009-05-04): “The health of the Heart of the Deconstructor in the XT-002 Deconstructor encounter has been reduced.”
(2009-04-28): “The XT-002 Deconstructor encounter has received the following changes: The duration of Tympanic Tantrum has been reduced, the timer for XT-002 to hit berserk has been increased, the damage of Light Bomb has been reduced, the effect radius of Light Bomb has been reduced, and the health of XM-024 Pummeler has been reduced.”
(2009-04-23): “The damage of XT-002 Deconstructor’s Gravity Bomb ability has been reduced.”
(2009-04-22): “The enrage timer on XT-002 Deconstructor has been increased.”
(2009-04-21): “All of the additional creatures spawned during the XT-002 Deconstructor encounter can now be snared in either difficulty.”
(2009-04-21): “It will be slightly more difficult to skip Tympanic Tantrum on XT-002 Deconstructor.”
(2009-04-17): “XT-002 Deconstructor’s health and damage has been slightly increased in hard mode.”
(2009-04-17): “XT-002 Deconstructor will no longer cast Light Bomb or Gravity Bomb while channeling Tympanic Tantrum.”
(2009-04-15): “We have altered XT-002 Deconstructor’s heart aggro radius down to 60 yards so players will no longer get stuck in combat when at the entrance to his room.”
It’s almost like this fight needed to be nerfed from the start.
That’s the thing. Rogues can simply change their spec to do more damage, ret has to change their class.
One of these things are available in game and supported, one is not.
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having classes where they were during their respective patches, not missing entire abilities from their kit, is also “no changes”
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SPOILER ALERT: They don’t have the coding for any iteration of Wrath that isn’t 3.3.5. It was all overwritten as time went on, and it’s likely only because of the private server scene that they have access to the 3.3.5 code in the first place.