In terms of damage, of course not. Not even close. Damage didn’t win battlegrounds in Classic. Damage wasn’t even a stat you could see in a Battleground without an addon. This was back in the times where flag carriers didn’t show up on the map.
Cloth shoulders were easily obtained via quests in Silverpine. But yes, shoulders were pretty damn difficult to get.
Yup. The stats on that were crazy but it’s still doable.
Thats assuming you could catch up to them with the horrible stealth speed. Veteran players going back to classic are gonna run circles around rogue twinks who relied on 400ms players (like my dialup running self) back then.
The norm certainly, but you could still make do with it. There were very few options for increasing spell damage, but there were still spellcaster twinks back then. All they could do was stack stamina and intellect (worthless for Afflic twinks who cant crit).Thats because damage wasn’t the main goal.
BGs nowadays can easily be won by whoever mongos the other into submission, hence my 90% win rates.
Yes, it was meant as an alternative to grinding PvE for people who enjoy PvP. What is has turned into is an alternative to grinding PvE for people who enjoy putting no effort into their characters and have no desire to PvP.
Slow battlegroup? I was on Shadowburn and queues were no longer than 10-15 minutes in any bracket that I can remember.
In terms of HP as well. You’d be lucky to go into a BG with ~800 HP as a leveler. Meanwhile twinks had 1.4k+. With some of the better Druid FCs having 2k HP. It wasn’t solely about damage, the HP gap was huge.
people running around with 300-800 HP weren’t going to take down a druid with 2k HP.
Catch up to them? It wasn’t THAT slow. Even so, it was just WSG and AB. FCs and AB defenders were mostly standing still, and a couple shadowstrikes could still do the trick.
Try 100% win rates dude. The only reason you could lose back then is if the other team had more twinks than your team. And back then we ran around in premades all the time because there was so many of us.
Now? My chaos bolts hit from 18k to 29k. Levelers in my bracket have 16k-24k health.
Could you even do AB as a 19 in classic? I don’t remember that being possible but I might be foggy.
How do you think I lost my games? I have 84k health. People I fight against have 25k max unless theyre a tank. I could let my pet kill basically everyone around me. Seriously, watch a few of the VoDs where I’m not facing a twink team and see! I did lose on occasion to some excellent twinks (Venics and company).
Nah, I avoid most sub60 brackets because I don’t like missing half my kit. I’ve only really done 69, 79, 99(tried it, my old legion 99 twinks are god awful), and 110 in BFA.
I wish I could sing a catchy toon and play it to a montage of Vanilla twinking with me having my arm around your shoulder showing you all the wonders of vanilla twinking. Pick a bracket, any bracket in Vanilla. Twinks were crazy powerful. Not only because of enchants and engineering, but because of gear. You didn’t have people walking around in Epics. Epics meant something back then. It showed drastically who put effort into their characters and who didn’t. The longer I play BFA, the more excited I get for Vanilla. It’ll be a grind for sure, but I’m excited. I also think it’ll pump some new life into the twinking community. But at the same time, twinking back then was a huge commitment. Couldn’t just slap some enchants on some heirlooms and call it a day. You had to carefully go out and grab gear without leveling.
I think you’re making an assumption that I didn’t twink in those days. I certainly did. I was a noob and had a 19 rogue with fiery enchants. That wasn’t enough for me. Eventually I learned and made a 29 warrior twink (Corpsemaker + Vile Protector), leveled the 19 up to 49 with a Thrash Blade + Doomforged Straightedge, and had a 49 twink beastmastery hunter as well. I remember all too well praying my experience would last as I farmed Maraudon for the rare mob that dropped the mail pants for my hunter. I remember tagging the Cenarion Emmisary NPC in WOTLK on my OG 29 twink warrior and accidentally leveling. I remember it all. They were great times.
Oooh, just remembered. I tried to make a 29 fire mage by stacking nothing but +fire spell damage gear, like the Inferno Robe from the Hillsbrad questline. It was a complete failure. 3 Fireballs later and I’m out of mana. Turns out a brotha needs some intellect…
A more innocent and forgiving intent would be OP is trying to ask people to confine discussion to one or two threads, rather than a new thread every other day. They kind of have a point.
In reality, we just need more threads talking about how terrible it is to play BGs as Alliance, because there clearly aren’t enough threads about that. That or complaining about premade threads.
I’d be willing to wager levelers dont enter the bg’s at all. All pain small rewards.
So, It’ll be one big twink vs twink war. Vanilla twinks world pvp to make up for it, I remember this lvl 10 Twink that could kill lvl 60’s
Nope I never said their was none but that’s only 1. Looking at the bg forums now I see 2 threads by a troll hunter 2 by a lock 2 by a priest and 1 by the famous troll worgen
Funny how you are trying to use the same misdirection phrase of “xp off” instead of “twink” to make it look like it is all about XP!
it is also interesting that you consider any statement that points out the fallacy of the OPs claim as troll/spam. Troll/Spam would be when you use a statement such as those of the XP off crowd who makes as if it is all about XP and not about the fact that Twinks hate that they are being given the ability to battle only other Twinks as they have always said they wanted. That as well as the fact that for most of 14 years Twinks (XP off crowd) have always claimed they were the majority of BGers until they get separate BGs and can’t get enough people to queue!
Funny how this claim is being made by someone who hides their profile so you can’t see the BG trolling he has done!
A wager you lose immediately because of the fact that the whole reason for this thread is because the XP off folks are QQing because their BG queues are 300-500% longer than those of the XP on players!
lol good joke I bet your prolly 1 of these several players that have made these trolls/spam threads just posting on another toon like several of them have
The joke is you trying discredit anyone who doesn’t agree with you by claiming they are trolling when the Troll is you!
You are the one hiding your profile!