XPoff vs XPon debate needs to stop

Getting real annoying seeing nothing but people complaining about others with more gear and time sunk into their characters than them.

Solution:

Instead of separating the brackets of XP on and XP off. how about we just remove XP gains at all from BGs. That way you dont have to worry about winning or losing and it will simply be for the fun of PvP.

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Yeah i kind of stopped posting in those threads. Not getting a bump from me. Bgs should have never given xp in the first place. Especially since its not even enough xp to be a valid way to level. Hasnt been like that since early wrath AV.

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Translation: If I can’t get a BG then no one should.

Seriously, removing XP would decimate queue times.

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well since the mindset of retail WoW is If i cant have what they have then they cant have it either, or they need to go away. I think my request is perfectly reasonable.

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Removing XP altogether would be great.

Currently if you lose a few games you’re feeling pissed because you didn’t level fast enough, or never got any loot. Hmmmm who can I point fingers at? Horde, pre-mades, twinks, and next will be heirlooms.

The twink argument is definitely moot. If someone wants a twink feel they can throw on heirlooms, get some enchants, and still have a blast killing the unprepared, and going up against a long time foe.

However the one appeal to twinking is that we’re allowed to focus on a static character that we are able to perfect. No one but elite end game PvP’ers are allowed to accomplish this.

Has XP in PvP captivated new players for the game in general? Probably not.

Has XP in PvP enticed anyone to play PvP more so than without XP? Most likely for some.

Has XP in PvP brought more people in to PvP and has caused them to continue to play more PvP because of this? Maybe.

XP in BGs was just another leveling option offered, to make the game a little lighter on some folks who didn’t like the quest or dailies grind. All the other incentives of having XP in PvP were speculative.

I maintain the belief that the biggest problem with twinking was the inconsistent scaling of weapon enchants, and the ability to macro multiple weapon swaps in order to obtain multiple procs. This is not limited to only twinks. This is why I have a problem with segregation as a solution.

Other than that twinks are just players in a locked xp bracket. We populate BGs, and I don’t think we do much more harm to other players than someone who is highly focused and intent on doing as much harm to others as possible. Which again, can be done outside of twinking.

People going off the rails on twinks are over exaggerating matters imo. The Devs should be more thoughtful and more diligent to find compromise.

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Why do Q times matter if I shouldn’t care about leveling PvP and just play end game? why dont you all just play end game? goes both ways.

I’d love to know where I mentioned end game.

because I didn’t.

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Nah how bout instead we remove the NPC who removes experience. After all we are a game of leveling.

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You might not have, but in every other thread thats all people say.

That’s cool. Take it up with them.

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yeah, then we remove XP from BGs since that is how it was before the XP off guy was added.

Never had a problem with que times BEFORE Exp was added.

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Game was also wildly more popular.

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They should remove xp tbh. Would see who really likes to pvp and those who don’t for sure

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Perhaps you’re right. But XP in BGs wasn’t always a thing. And it forced players to level by utilizing other aspects of the game. If that’s what they wanted.

I’ve already posted the perfect solution to this topic before

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i like this idea

Queue times were just fine without xp.

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I would love to see it, but I’m not holding my breath for it. They know Classic will satisfy this, they are counting on it. Players that want BGs the way they originally were are just going to migrate over for some 'nilla flavor.

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Your twink queues would still not pop then because the levellers are gone too.

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