Ah, I understand now. You simply aren’t sure what a real twink actually is. I’d recommend not speaking on the subject until you educate yourself further. By your own definition, players are only “good” if they are at max level. So all of those top-tier arena players never had any skill while leveling, and was simply gifted the abilities once they ding max level.
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Now you understand, glad we could resolve this so quickly
NPC’s that provide no XP option will be available in pre-patch
Well I played a 69 ally priest (smitelicious) for maybe a year or less in the beginning. But queues got too long so I skipped over to retail 20s. Looking forward to a 79 prot war + boomkin.
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Yeah, big whales. Vanilla and TBC enchants so pricey. All the 70s must be whales too!
I play low level brackets, I don’t twink (but I am not a slob with my gearing) and hold my own.
If twinks suck (many actually don’t), you should do just as well as I do. Why are you so mad? Can!t outcompete “bad players” with a gear advantage?
Sounds like a YOU problem honestly.
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Thanks! I really appreciate it when you guys make this kind of effort to communicate your thoughts and intentions.
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I bought 10 wow tokens to make just 2 x lvl 20 twinks (2 druids). And there’s twinks who spend waaaaay more than I do. Like 5+ million retail gold for one twink. Wonder if the token is coming to wrath…?
Classic Pendulum of doom STONKS just went up with this news lol
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Your right.
Nobody is going to want to willingly queue into twinks as a way to earn xp.
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Twinking in retail is obviously incredibly expensive then compared to classic. I had upwards of 6 39 twinks at one time during BC and WotlK, and spent no where NEAR as much gold as you did. Of course there were people who went nuts, bought gold, and scooped up as much gear as possible for twinking guilds. To compare that to buying 10 wow tokens though…
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Guide for BG Levelling
This thread does have a some negativity directed at twinks. You can easily accumulate competitive gear with little to no cost. This is what I do/will be doing during WotLK:
1. Heirloom gear
Get a character to Level 80 and run dungeons/Wintergrasp for Heirloom gear. This is really going to be BiS for your BG gear (chest, shoulder, weapon, trinket) that you can send to an alt.
2. BG gear
Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin gear will be available for just honor. The honor required is very low, which you can earn while you level in BGs. Refresh every 10 levels.
Gear includes: necklace, rings, capes, boots, belt, trinkets, epic wrists (starting at 40], weapons (though, I would use Heirlooms for weapons).
3. Dungeons
I like running levelling dungeons once for the quest completions. You should be getting blue gear via quests and/or boss drops.
4. Profession/AH supplements
While the first three gearing methods will provide a lot of great gear, crafting gear from professions or looking at AH levelling gear to update slots that are dragging behind is pretty cheap.
5. Enchanting
You do not need end game enchanting. Levelling enchants can be acquired for a fraction of the cost. If you have an enchanter, you can put the enchant on scrolls (via inscription) and sent to alts, or just buy cheap enchants off AH.
If you follow this approach, you will be in the higher tier of players in terms of gear and should compete very well in BGs. Most of your gear will be acquired free or very cheaply.
Pre-End Game BG’s: Level 79
If you like BGing and don’t want to constantly gear grind at 80 and/or do arenas, level 79 BGing will be highly recommended.
There are level 78 8-piece blue PvP crafted sets that will be available and should be very cheap. You will be highly competitive. Grind those BG achievements! Buy those PvP mounts! Max your honor and then go to 80 (or just stick around at 79).
Hope this helps. This is what I am doing.
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Still ignoring the LFD thread while you clearly have time to respond. What wonderful feedback.
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The classic devs seem to just want to punish players at this point for not playing the game how they want. It’s why retail has struggled the last three expansions and it’s why wrath is doa.
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Sweet, without RDF, I can just sit in the city and level thru BG queues!
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Even with their selective communication, I’m having fun in Classic Era.
If you’re somebody who is going to reroll to another class at Level 80 (say, Death Knight) and have very little interest in playing your current Level 70 (at Level 80) – do consider the 70-79 bracket. If you are decked-out in Season 4 or Sunwell gear, you are perfectly competitive (and in some cases, Sunwell gear is arguably BiS due to sockets + Northrend gems).
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Exactly this. While leveling characters recently, I would queue a bg to take a break from questing and rarely get a queue to pop except in the 60s bracket which was an occasional WSG or AV non-stop thanks to 70’s.
If this increases participation in low level bgs, it’s a good thing.
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Well this seems fine and all but I think what truly matters is if you allow people to queue for battlegrounds while even questing, this was always the case that battleground exp is terrible and not worth using as a alternative unless you could pair it with questing and as a “Break from questing”. If leveling in battlegrounds is bad exp rates it will just die off in the low brackets period since there is not enough reward vs time investment.
I’ll be happy as long as you don’t treat it the same as the dungeon finder and remove it since I honestly think that would kill pvp and also deftly kill off Wintergrasp.
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I did it all the time on retail WOTLK. Mainly AV- it’s a big enough bg to avoid the twinks, who tend to farm kills in the zergs. Plus, it offered great XP which I hope Blizzard will continue on classic.
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