Il'gynoth's Prophecy has merit now thanks to https://www.wowhead.com/news=287531/patch-8-1-ptr-broadcast-text-xalatath-spoilers
Uu'nat <Harbinger of the Void>'s End Raid dialogue:
Yes... you are indeed the ones I seek. The ones to turn the tide.
Receive now the greatest of all gifts. My dream has become your own. The circle of stars made flesh.
She will show you the way. Come... come. The hour approaches when all eyes shall be opened.
Clearly the Crucible of Storms is where the Circle of Stars is found and what is the Circle of Stars? N'Zoth's Eyes gazing upon us!
Who do we find when we drown ourselves in the gaze of N'Zoth? N'Zoth himself.
More interesting is this prophecy:
Mae'n galw o'r dwn, mae ein haser wei dod.
Mae'r llygad mawr yn gwy'lio or ti willch.
Ne hi'n dod a'r canig. Rwain cig en i'w laad.
In t'e freud dwi'dia som dinas...
It is Welsh and translates to:
He calls from the depths, our herald has come,
The great eye watches from the darkness,
And it calls, she is the sacrificial lamb,
In the dreaming city she will be slaughtered.
A line relevant to this is:
Xal'atah... a fascinating weapon. I have heard tales of its exploits.
A pity it now lies dormant. But anything that slumbers can be awakened.
This blade is more than a dagger. It is a torch that shall light our path forward.
1 of the Five Keys to open our way... 1 of the Five Torches to light our path...
"At the Hour of her third death she will usher in our coming."
She died once to the Old God who ate her and again to the Priest using her to drain the energies of the Sword of Sargeras. She must die once more(sacrificed on the towers of sacrifice in Ny'alotha) to usher in the Void's coming.
Here is Xal'atath's statement when N'Zoth unseals her:
The universe opens before me. You may want to pray that our paths don't cross again.
And yet, for you, I have something you never would have known to ask... A gift that you so richly deserve, my champion.
Know that you did help to stop those paltry invasions -- and by that, we have now opened the door for something bigger from Nazjatar.
Ny'alotha isn't on Azeroth nor is it in the Void but it is keeping the Void sealed and that seal can only be broken with the Blood Sacrifice of Xal'atath upon the towers of sacrifice! This is not good news considering the city where the seal is found is a place of unremembered crimes which does not paint the one sealing the Void in
any good light. The true enemy must rule that city as well as the Planet it is on...
Xal'atath wasn't praising the Void when she was speaking of Ny'alotha but proclaiming the threat of the true enemy!
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This is actually cool as hell and gives a bit more of that lovecraftian feel old gods have been missing.
"At the Hour of her third death she will usher in our coming."
What will the diehards do if this isn't about Jaina or Sylvanas though?
10/28/2018 05:21 PMPosted by
Jerolan "At the Hour of her third death she will usher in our coming."
What will the diehards do if this isn't about Jaina or Sylvanas though?
Or alleria for that matter. Or whoever was the other female character that's "died" a lot.
Very glad to see this plot thread is being developed and paid off.
10/28/2018 05:15 PMPosted by
Aelas This is actually cool as hell and gives a bit more of that lovecraftian feel old gods have been missing.
And makes the true enemy the Lovecraftian God while the Void Entities like N'Zoth are just tentacled Elder Things trying to stop the Eldritch Forces of Death so that they can get back to committing hedonistic atrocities only to find the Eldritch Abominations have sealed them away in order to kill everything.
I suspect the true enemy to be Locus Walker's true form(especially considering what he states considering his true name). I have no doubt he personally stabbed Vol'jin in Felguard form.
He is likely the Nyarlathotep-type character since his city which holds the seal on the Void is called Ny'alotha.
My mind is actually blown right now. God I can't wait for Old Gods. I hope we lose.
And makes the true enemy the Lovecraftian God while the Void Entities like N'Zoth are just tentacled Elder Things trying to stop the Eldritch Forces of Death so that they can get back to committing hedonistic atrocities only to find the Eldritch Abominations have sealed them away in order to kill everything.
This adds a whole new layer to that Il'gynoth line "What pointless impudence! We share a master!"
The fact that there are multiple Void Lords presents the possibility that they might not all necessarily be married to or even in favor of the "Old God method" of corrupting world-souls. There's no guarantee that the Void Lords are a singular unified monolith with a specific way of approaching everything.
There could very well be Void Lords who seek to corrupt and control the physical universe by other means that conflict with the agendas of those who chucked the Old Gods into our reality.
10/28/2018 06:29 PMPosted by
Lysaux My mind is actually blown right now. God I can't wait for Old Gods. I hope we lose.
That's if the Void Lords actually decide to fight us instead of sending their armies right in the direction of the true enemy's
capital for
daring to seal them away amidst their hedonistic lifestyle that would have consumed all existence if left unchecked!
I dare say the Void's hedonism has already resulted in Void Entities cannibalising each other due to their being trapped within their own realm and are probably not happy about the true enemy who put them in that situation in the first place.
In all likelihood we will only get a few Void Lords(as well as their Fel equivalents capable of being summoned through the Black Tome seen in the Suramar Questing) coming after us while the rest duke it out with the true enemy's forces.
This adds a whole new layer to that Il'gynoth line "What pointless impudence! We share a master!"
You do realize the Elder Things are a group of Aliens(who created the Eldritch-looking Shoggoths just as how the Void Lords created the Eldritch-looking Old Gods) who fought against the Great Old Ones(the Eldritch Abominations) in the Lovecraftian Mythos right?
Shoot, they didn't forget Circle of Stars... say what you will about the Faction War, but the Old God narrative is where they shine.
say what you will about the Faction War, but the Old God narrative is where they shine.
It's hardly a surprise. Mists of Pandaria was a great expansion, but the best parts of it were everything not explicitly focusing on the faction war, but how it's presence affected the land and people that were swept up in it.
... Then things started to get a lil' stupid. Garrosh emoting with his neck was cool though.
Shoot, they didn't forget Circle of Stars... say what you will about the Faction War, but the Old God narrative is where they shine.
I very strongly disagree. The Old God/Void stuff is even worse than the faction war.
Imo you’re jumping to too many conclusions in knowing what these things mean from these new datamined lines.
While in a vacuum it sounds like the circle of stars is some actual being, there is this line from Ogmot: “It been too long since Ogmot got drowned.” Which does not sound like an actual being.
I don’t necessarily see how the universe opening means Nya’lotha is some place in outer space/twisting nether. We have multiple beings saying they are traveling to Nya’lotha and there’s a very good chance the city shown in the Azshara warbringer was Nya’lotha. It still could be something completely different that’s not even a real city.
The same dialogue line also mentions something coming from Naz’jatar which is a real city under the ocean.
10/28/2018 06:51 PMPosted by
Reignac I very strongly disagree. The Old God/Void stuff is even worse than the faction war.
Couldn't agree more.
They kept a reasonable handle on it through WotLK, and then spiraled out of control in Cata (storylines spiraling out of control being the hallmark of Cata), but it's never really been anything more than super tryhard faux Lovecraftian nerdulating (which is a word now).
And to the degree that the theme was ever tolerable, Chronicles I put a stake through its heart with the breathtakingly awful revised cosmology.
Blizzard does not do cosmic horror well. They don't do cosmic anything well. Their sense of scope and scale is garbage. Look no further than Argus if you need an example.
Their small, local stories are often quite good. The bigger they get, the worse they get.
10/28/2018 06:29 PMPosted by
Lysaux My mind is actually blown right now. God I can't wait for Old Gods. I hope we lose.
Here's hoping for the raid to end, our characters to die, and next ''expac'' to be 100 years in the future with a fresh slate.
10/29/2018 12:27 PMPosted by
Ahum 10/28/2018 06:29 PMPosted by
Lysaux My mind is actually blown right now. God I can't wait for Old Gods. I hope we lose.
Here's hoping for the raid to end, our characters to die, and next ''expac'' to be 100 years in the future with a fresh slate.
So you mean cataclysm 2.0? Not likely, given all the post mortem exams done on cataclysm notes how much of a drain on resources it was.
... am... am I the only one who likes the Old God story or...?
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10/28/2018 06:51 PMPosted by
Reignac Shoot, they didn't forget Circle of Stars... say what you will about the Faction War, but the Old God narrative is where they shine.
I very strongly disagree. The Old God/Void stuff is even worse than the faction war.
This kind of thing is what I love about the Old God/Void stuff. They can be nothing one minute and suddenly we're about to accidentally the entire world because no one thought anything about the Priest PC using a living piece of an old god to fight the Legion. The speculation over "her third death" for the last few months, the "circle of stars", "can we even trust what this OLD GOD LIAR says?" is always really fun to talk about and the pieces coming together once we finally get the information we need to see what Blizzard is planning is always exciting.
I know it's just going to devolve into madness and tentacles eventually, which is a damn shame, but this part of it we get before the tentacles and madness is always really good stuff.
I'm also hoping Blizzard will flex more of that horror muscle they used when they created the Ur'zul, the monsters for Drustvar/Waycrest, and some of the scenery they made for G'huun's corruption.
Imo you’re jumping to too many conclusions in knowing what these things mean from these new datamined lines.
Pretty much my thought process whenever I read Yvenathilm's posts. No offense.