That you are all about talking. All I see is a guy who isn’t even competing but bad mouthing attempts that are based on statistics and not some personal impressions based on nothing, not even experience.
Then I am sure you could give me a link or something, to support that claim? Or is it just your “word” that means actually nothing?
That show only the popularity of something, not how strong something is.
But past experience, current friends, and the fact nothing has fundamentally changed in this game for a very very long time.
I don’t need to go to the bottom of the ocean to be able to confidently say there isn’t any breathable air down there.
My dip into my pool is more than enough to correlate that hypothesis.
No it’s based off the information from the various multi glads and r1s that are on the forums and having been active during various points through the times that was true.
But hey someone who hides behind an achievement locked low level definitely has to room to stand on trying to talki about someone’s experience
If you still think so, it only shows that you still haven’t understood how it works.
Oh, so because L.S.D and God Comp where S Tier comps in MoP, it means they are still S Tier comps now? Or how about DHs? I mean, they were crazy good during DF. Why aren’t they seen anywhere?
Several classes have gotten redesigned in terms of abilities and damage break downs and also the modifiers change every single tuning hotfixes.
A class can just fly from B tier to S tier with a single hotfix and vise versa, even without a single change to the class design itself!
I can’t remember when I saw Feral+SP+Pala the last time in an AWC match before TWW, but suddenly its the most dominating comp in the NA AWC. But things haven’t changed I guess.
But interesting that you bad mouth unbiased statistics, but trust your past experience (do you have some?) and the opinion of your “friends” and think that are unbiased sources with real value! 
I mean, who do you think you are?
Aaaah, so we are giving value to words of multi glads and r1s now? Right now nobody would call out Rshaman as overtuned, still is it as popular as RDruid and PEvoker. Not on the level of Hpal or Disc of course, which are both currently very strong btw, but still mid range popularity.
Or how about that multi glads and r1s, even AWC champions and former Blizzcon champions say that Rshaman is way too weak? Or DH, DK, WW, Holy Priest, etc.?
I mean, when they are the source to trust in your opinion, why don’t you trust them there?
Because you can’t get how strong or weak something is solely because of how many people play it.
You’re whom doesn’t understand here.
Pvp is still “trade cds for cds, positioning, cc, peel for each other.”
What you’re describing isn’t a fundamental difference, the goal is the same how it reaches the goal is the only difference.
Where did I say overtuned? You’re conflating being weak with not being op.
You can not be op and still not be weak, the 2 aren’t mutually exclusive.
This is actual information to draw on, not simply misnterrupting statistics to say whatever you want; ie “representation says this”
However, I generally don’t put much stock in the streamers among them, as I’ve seen plenty of them basically just crying hoping for buffs.
Like I said, you still don’t get it, because you are missing the most important point of the statistic or premise.
Those are important points, of course, but you’re overlooking the most important ones: damage and healing. And those are what they are usually tuning for!
Your comp can have the best toolkit, but if you don’t have the damage to kill or die to air because your healer can’t top you, your comp won’t be viable!
So past experience will not tell you which classes and comps are currently strong or weak and have therefore no value!
Aaaah, so sometimes they are worth it to mention to support your personal opinion, but of course they become biased cry babies the moment it doesn’t support your opinion anymore.
You are so troll! I will gift you with my ignore. Enjoy your waffling and pomposity without me. 
Again says the low level hidden character.
Good luck with the brain rot
I am not the one who puts his experience from previous expansions and his personal opinion above statistical evaluations or the opinion of active but above all very good players.
Because that’s not how statistics works captain brainrot.
The only thing representation can tell you is what people are playing, it doesn’t and has never said what is strong or weak.
According to vehicle statistics, the most sold was the F-150 in 2023. Does that mean the F-150 is the best vehicle out there?
No. Just means it was the most popular choice, from that information you can form a hypothesis of why is it the most popular, but you can’t answer the why purely off the data from statistics like that.
There could be multiple reasons that attribute to why people are playing it.
Back in BFA warriors weren’t very present on representation and yet they were still a strong class, it was just playing a wizard triangle formation was much easier hence why they weren’t represented.
As for this particular example of data the OP lumps all specs together for the classes with multiple dps choices, causing the information to appear differently than breaking down all by the individual specs.
No you’re just the one hiding behind a lowbie alt, so you can rp on the forums about being better than you are
Another indication that you should have spent more time at the school desk instead of the computer at home. You just don’t get it! Other than drustvar, he is not using absolute numbers, but relative scalings!
Same answer here, if you still haven’t realized that I am not hiding, but that I am simply not from NA.
Says the guy who doesn’t know how statistics works. Good luck cupcake, the brain rot clearly is the winner here.
But that is your issue here. YOU can’t or you don’t want to understand it. Simply because it gives you a result that you don’t want to hear.
In your little world things might be different, but it shows the viability of specs on high ratings in 3s/shuffle, not some random 2s mmr.
His conclusion states WW needs buff, while I agree the dmg is lackluster, his methodology to arrive at that conclusion is what I have issue with.
I understand it just fine, I understand you can’t get a why from statistics. Because that’s not how it works.
No, it shows what people are playing, not viability. Because again you can’t get a “why” from statistics, you can form a hypothesis, but other information is needed to get the why.
You keep talking about school, perhaps you should listen to your own advice and go back
And that is the conclusion that most top 3s players have, beside some Locks maybe, who just hate WW in general. Venruki did some “tierlist” yesterday of which specs need buffs, nerfs or are fine. WW was on the list for specs that need buffs, right next to both DK specs and DH. WW is a great spec for mid ratings and even somewhat viable on 2s highrating. But its a terrible spec for 3s/shuffle high ratings!
Maybe read some other answers in the forum as well. Alone in this thread you have Dorito to tell the TO to play another spec because WW isn’t good. Or my favorite so far:
as that is exactly how it feels when you play against real players as WW. You simply don’t have the pressure to make a difference!
No, you don’t. First of all you don’t see it as statistic, so let me give you a short explanation of what a statistic is:
Statistics is the science of data analysis. It involves collecting, analyzing, presenting, and interpreting data to uncover patterns, trends, or relationships. Here are the main aspects of statistics:
- Descriptive Statistics: Summarizes and describes data using measures like mean, median, and standard deviation.
- Inferential Statistics: Draws conclusions about a population based on a sample, using methods like hypothesis testing or confidence intervals.
- Data Visualization: Presents data in graphical forms, such as charts and graphs, to highlight patterns and trends.
And that is exactly what he did. Of course can you question whether the data collection is meaningful or whether it really allows conclusions to be drawn, but there is no doubt that he has collected data, put it into context and evaluated it accordingly.
So where is it not a statistical analysis? But that is just one point you don’t get. The other point is, that it doesn’t exactly show the strength of each spec, but what classes obviously don’t have a single DPS spec that is good for high ratings in 3s/shuffle.
This may end in the same result, but that’s still a fundamentally different view than assuming it represents specs by their exact strength!
Exactly, but it also shows which specs gains easy rating and which specs are having hard times. Or would you say rating doesn’t have a direct connection to playing people?
Anyways, I doubt you want to understand it! You prefer your personal opinion based on nothing over an unbiased attempt that definitely isn’t perfect but has a lot more value than what you think is correct.
But it can’t tell you why, notice it doesn’t say why something is happening?
That’s the part you’re not grasping here, it literally can’t tell you why.
You can only present a hypothesis, not draw a conclusion from numbers.
Maybe instead of copy pasting from google you go to school and learn it.
And that was never the goal. It does not say
Rdruid isn’t good on top ratings because of … and …
all it does is to show significant deviations from the expected value. And there must be reasons for it. What those reasons are is the job of the devs to find out. He only did show the devs where to look at!
That is a good advice for yourself, since you still haven’t understood it! Or are you trying to say that there is no relationship between strong specs and top ratings?
The hilarious part is the game has seen changes almost every month since releases throughout almost all the spec a patch releases all the sudden one spec goes form the sub mid tiers to the top same has happens across almost all the specs.
The only one that has really stayed the same is holy priest. That’s about it. No specs is in the same tier as holy priest has been all expansion not even tank specs.
Using representation to say what is strong is literally saying why the numbers are that way.
You’re brain rot has literally given me a headache now, thanks.
How can you be so incredibly slow on the uptake?
He questions the relative frequency that a spec is encountered on high rating. If this doesn’t at least rudimentarily indicate which classes don’t seem to do particularly well on high ratings in 3s, then you probably want to say that the reason is the look of the season sets? Or maybe the look of the ability animations? Or maybe what the players had for breakfast on the days they played?
You really have a yawning void in your skull!
Specifically says something needs buffs simply based on representation numbers.
But hey man you keep that goal post relocation, it’s working wonders for you.
See that’s a why and statistics can’t answer why, but then you’ll go on some rant and insult my intelligence.
It’s a nice loop you’ve got yourself in.
You’re a bit restarted and I’m tired telling you the most known statistical fact; that numbers can’t tell you why they do that way.
Of course, because you not even accept common sense, but you also still don’t understand that the
doesn’t matter! What matters is that they have work to do to change it!