I agree, buff Sin Rogues.
The caster/ranged gaslighting has already started?
āsAyS, tHe dHāā¦ DH needs to be toned down. Not arguing that, but every time casters cant just sit in a triangle and nuke people down its āmElee MEta aPeS!ā
Gaslighting apes.
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Interesting Data Thanks for putting that together.
While I have issues with population/top rating relationships, I donāt agree for several reasons. Itās still cool of you to post this, much better than the typical āRep means nothing postā.
Besides it clearly shows Ret as one of the weakest specs and needs buffs right away! I take back everything Iāve said about Rep now that the list shows Ret needs buffs. 
Not really, Iām kidding of course.
Look at your list compared to just Rep. It shows DH at the top followed by DK, with Rogues doing better than warrior with arms above Ret. The WW above Ret and Enhance above Ret is different than overall Rep. Rogues doing slightly better than Arms where rep flips this, both still close in terms of Rep and % getting to 2100. Arms is 15.02% of Rep with Rogues 12.93% total. % getting to 2100 after passing 1k Arms 2.24% Rogue spec average 2.57%.
Itās actually pretty close to what just the ladder shows with a few differences where mid and lower end swap. Still shows the Top 4-5 in roughly the same order in in terms of melee ranking. You have Demo, elle, destro, balance, frost near the top of the list in terms of ranged thatās essentially the rep list. The only major outlier is Aug.
It seems the outliers of gross Rep vs this list is centers around lower population classes/specs where you have a fraction of the median population.
Population does change things but not by a whole lot the top is still the top. Over performers are at the top of the list and underperformers are still lower to mid.
Again Rep isnāt gospel but it is a solid indicator as Iāve always stated.
Like I said, itās a better look at the data than just which specs are at the top, but itās definitely not conclusive at face value. There are correlations, but nothing shown is concrete enough on its own. One reason ret may be lower would be that hpal is actually pretty prevalent in shuffle, and forbearance may cause defensive issues. Would need to take a look at 3s as well to see whatās happening there.
If you look only at representation without factoring in population, then underplayed classes like evoker will be under represented. Attributing that lower representation to spec strength would be a big error.
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This is absolutely true. Hpal is much weaker when playing with a Ret than against. 30 seconds where they canāt use major team defensives, and I canāt use mine to protect them. While they 100% always work when I have to play against them the next round.
With Hpal being around 13% Ret has more lobbies where itās a healer diff. It weakens a less than stellar healer when they are on your team, yet they have great defensives to use against melee when they are on the other.
What I love about either measure is it shows how biased the streamers are. Lets put Ret in S. Iām not saying Ret is weak but there is no objective measure that shows Ret is S. Paladin DPS is nothing special and the ladder proves this handily, either way you look at it.
.07 PTSD is a real thing
Shhh donāt talk about melee or they will tell you weāre in a ācaster metaā
Cracks me up every time
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