WTB Dual Spec - One Change Blizzard

Nope it doesnt. But it does allow tanks, that switch specs to do questing or grinding or pvping, to not have to say no to a request to tank. Or just stop tanking completely for days because they dont want to deal with respeccing back and forth.

Is it perfect? No. There is a consequence to having duel spec. There is a consequence to not having duel spec. It depends on which you prefer to have.

But to your post, i do agree with your point. Duel spec will probably not create more tanks by dpsers deciding to tank. It just allows tanks the abilty to switch back and forth. Which slightly helps with the tank shortage. It is not going to have a major impact on tank shortages

It is a very nice quality of life change for every player. A change that almost every player was happy with when it was imemented. Yes it made an already easy game a little bit easier. Pretty much everyone was ok with that. It is one of those things wher you just say u know what. Dang it is nice to be able to just switch and get to having some fun. Its not a deal breaker for anyone. Since spec changing is already in the game.

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People don’t want to tank.

Making it easier to do something that people don’t want to do is not going to make them want to do it.

Sure, some people might choose to tank a dungeon so they don’t have to spend time looking for a tank - but it’s not what they want to do, and they aren’t going to have fun doing it. Making it free doesn’t make it amazing.

“So what ends up happening is you have people interested in tanking who have to put up with far more trash from the community than other roles and they either quit tanking because its far too stressful or find a dedicated group to run with that are not complete jerks and play EXCLUSIVELY with people they know.”

And then we are back to whining about the tank shortage.

But … the lack of tanks is not really the problem you are trying to solve. You just don’t want to have to do the gold farming part of the game to be able to enjoy both the pvp / raid scene.

That’s fine, just say it. Stop masquerading it off as a “benefit” for the whole game and community.

You know which version of the game has what you want :wink:

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Lol. I use that same argument to justify copying music. Well not justifying it but counter the argument that i am costing the music artist money when i download thoer work. My reply is that i would have never ever in a million years bought thier song. I am enjoying their music without paying for it for sure. But the alternative is that i dont get to listwn to it. In either scenerio they are not getting myoney.

Just about as much as another one of your meaningless comments because you like to hear yourself talk.

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This obviously wrong. If it were true there would be no tanks. Some people like to tank. Some people don’t mind tanking but it’s not their prefered play style. Some people like to tank but don’t want to pay the respec cost so choose to dps instead. Some people will start to tank if dual spec removes the costs of tanking. Some won’t

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I agree. The more threads on dual spec and the longer the threads are the more likely the issue will come to blizzard’s attention for consideration

Oh look, the true nature of these forum trolls come out. They aim to circle-jerk each other into the night because everything revolves around them.

I disagree with this.

Whether you like it or not there are real ramifications to adding dual spec so getting a slight uptick in tanks that trades off those ramifications is not worth it in my eyes.

I don’t think it’s a benefit to the game to give players an excuse to roll on anything they could theoretically use because dual spec is now on the table. And to coin an old phrase “What about tri spec or quad spec!”

When people are restricted to running back to the city and respeccing constantly they tend block that kind of rationale and will only take it if no one else wants. I pretty much guarantee every class can find a reason to run multiple specs and loot multiple gear slots even if they stay in one lane of the game (PvE or PvP). No class is unique in this regard and if people want to do this stuff and are actually going to respec regularly and gear them up that’s fine, but I’d rather keep that portion of the playerbase as small as possible instead of opening up pandoras box for everyone just so we have 10 more tanks in the game.

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Retail WoW still has issues with lack of tanks.

It’s not going to make enough of a difference to be worth putting it in the game early. It should be in wotlk classic, and I will be glad that people get what they think they want then - but it won’t help with the lack of tanks. The problem isn’t 50gold.

People aren’t asking for dual spec to fix the tank shortage- they are asking for it because they don’t have time to play the game, and they want it made faster/easier/soloable.

That’s why I don’t want it. The faster/easier/solo crowd has a negative effect on the game and the community.

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Mu experience with wrath is that it was easier to get groups. While there was still a problem it was less severe. Even a small improvement can make things better when the problem is so severe now

No, they want to play the parts of the game they enjoy and do it in a way they enjoy. It has nothing to do with time.

I love healing in Raids but I don’t love farming, questing, etc in my Raid heal spec. It’s not enjoyable to me. I would actually play more if I didn’t have to drop 100G every time I want to spec out of Resto and back for Raiding.

This is an issue in Classic and Retail btw.

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And they don’t care about anyone else or what they want and they can’t wait for wotlk classic. They must have what they want, right now

Then don’t.
Wait for wrath.
Find an easy way to make gold.
If your guild needs you to heal, then they can help pay for you to respec for raiding and back.

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Yeah that’s the ticket. Now to tell us about how dual spec would erode the social fabric of the game in some vague, undefined way.

LOL or lower the cost of respeccing and increase the decay rate. That wouldn’t add anything new like Dual spec.

But I’m sure you’ll give me another vague response about how it would hurt other people.

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Yes we were. Some of us were quite loud about it in fact.

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Actually we very much were. You really need to look at the post history of “No boost” threads on this forum. They exploded with protest. Were you under a rock at this time?

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I have. Many others have. If you chose not to read it then, you won’t read it if it’s repeated, again.

You don’t care about what other people want. You will get your expansion, but you have to wait.

But that is too much. You have to demand it now and don’t care about the other people that don’t want it, and you won’t accept that you have options.

If you turn TBC into some mashup of QoL and features from future expansions and mess it up for the people who never wanted them, you will still move on to wotlk classic when it’s released and won’t have any care for the people who had what they wanted, messed up.

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Vaguely saying it will impact the social fabric of the game isn’t really saying anything and is actually a self induced fantasy.

Since that’s too hard tell me how someone else having Dual spec or cheaper respec costs would effect you in the slightest. You can go about your biz with your Guild and friends the same as you do now.

Look at retail.
All the “just one change” to fix it.
All of them.

Just wait for wotlk. :slight_smile:
TBC doesn’t need “fixing”.
You need to be patient.

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I see. Dual spec is why retail has all the problems we’ve been suffering through. That’s good to know.

I thought it was lack of anything to do outside of Raids and M+, crappy Profession systems, lack of server identity or a host of other things but thanks for setting me straight.

This is what people wanted. Are you not entertained?

Also, you can still play TBC content in retail. It just has all the QoL and fixes added in. But those don’t negatively affect anything, right?

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