Wrath was Popular for a reason

If you believe this I have some land on the moon to sell you

WotLK was popular partly because it was generally a lot of fun and built off the success of TBC and Vanilla.

Its true subscribers peaked in Wrath, but they were steadily on the incline going all the way back to Vanilla. In fact TBC had the greatest increase in playerbase

That isn’t remotely close to being true.

it had the gratest increase ( for an expansion that is) from 7 ish to 11ish million
base game (vanilla) had the greatest because well… it started from 0 to 7 ish million by the end of it

Many people stop playing after Wrath because we been playing/paying since Nov 2004 and were burned out from playing a game for that long as well as paying a subscription.

Wrath also finished the story for many of us who played WC3:FT. I remember alot of people back then, including myself, saying all they want is to get a Lich King kill so they can move on from wow once the expansion is over.

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Majority doesn’t mean s*** in this instance. There are 2 options; with or without dungeon finder.

Blizzard has tried with, now they are trying without. Enough people have shown interest in without, even if it’s not the majority of players.

So how do you square that with all the people saying that since it wasn’t added in for over a year it doesn’t count as a Wrath feature. Seems like we already played a lot of Wrath without RDF and this time we’d like to try it out for the whole thing.

You missed out on something very important the other reason why wrath was so popular because overall the class balance was The best the game has ever had

Most of the things all agree with engineering is a little bit of a I get what you’re saying but on the same end It’s not just the power that you get from engineering it’s all the stuff you get access I mean a bank the bombs.

Maybe there’s an argument to be have maybe you don’t need to be an engineer to be able to use the bombs.

I mean granted it would perhaps add to ray consumables but maybe that’s not such a bad thing you know I make bombs bombs for people and seldom on the auction house to help engineers make money.

Maybe little tweaks like that Would be OK but LFD We should have that in I don’t care what anyone says it would be a much better change if we just had it in.

As far as a fix to Winter grasp that’s such a bit’s a big thing to argue about because because so much of that is server population.

If I’m being honest the best thing they could do was increase the amount of people that could go into the battle and make it cross realm.

Literally a business, if they aren’t looking in the interest of continuing to be a business. Then why even bother?

It actually is. Other than Vanilla TBC had the greatest jump in subscribers of any expansion. From the end of Vanilla to the end of TBC, WoW saw a 4.5m sub increase. Wrath was when WoW peaked subs, but it wasn’t the biggest increase, and it was only building on the steady increase Vanilla and TBC already had

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So, it actually isn’t…. Vanilla was.

Vanilla isn’t an expansion tho…

Are you just being contrarian for contrary sake?

He didn’t say expansion…

So that’s a yes then.

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He said Wow gained the greatest amount of subs during TBC. As I said, that’s not remotely close to being true.

Vanilla gained double the subs TBC and Wrath did…combined.

Sorry if you can’t handle facts.

It is still going strong as is EQ2, neither one makes any effort to draw players from WoW though, they are happy with their numbers.

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