Wrath community too sweaty and delusional

The most annoying thing is you can get carried through a hardmode and parse higher than absolutely obliterating a normal mode.

9 of the bosses you basically can’t parse well on unless it’s hm

Hard to tell if players are good “at a glance” it’s more just “have you done hardmodes”

Normal mode all stars get looked over

Deep diving on the parses of ur whole 25m when it’s an alt and ur joining a trade chat gdkp or even some discord gdkps is too much work for a what’s supposed to be leisure.

It should be big number = good but the parses suck this tier.

Did you fail to pass 7th grade? Honest question.

Different metrics.
Hardmode is 95+
Normal is capped at 90 with yog 1light doing 94 cap I believe.

Parses are very fair metrics of performance. The only real exclusion is the star killer on algalon but they’re killing algalon so :man_shrugging:

Imagine wanting to run the dungeon you’ve ran countless times before, in a fast manner strictly for badges with other people that also only want badges. It’s preposterous!

Just because some people impose a GS standard, doesn’t mean that is the gamewide standard. They impose the restriction for a reason. Some of the H+ dungeons are slogs and take a long time to get through if one of the dps is well below 3800. Also you don’t want to match a 4900 dps with a 3700 tank.

Ok so if I use a wand the the whole fight but it’s hardmode so it’s auto-parse that makes sense?

Lol trolling

Nobody is using a wand to parse. You have really bad trolls.

The obsession with gearscore in wotlk classic is just one of many issues with walmart tier megaservers; with an abundance of options, comes rudimentary heuristics to judge them by (see: online dating), because groups can afford to lose out on picks with potential for the line of existing “proven” players. On most servers in vanilla classic, like Grobbulus, it wasn’t like this, because things were moderately sized enough that a player could either have a word of mouth reputation that transcended their parse, or you would be able to join a guild and organically work your way through a vetting period.

The answer is more close knit communities, and greater focus on aligning with guilds, rather than a faceless GDKP machine, and single-server communities, but the instant gratification/pay to win retail mentalities have infected both classic expansions so far, in a way I didn’t see previously. The shift in playerbase to more retail enjoyers as expansions progressed, has also consolidated people on megaservers in order to play the game how they expect retail to be, which has exacerbated the problem compared to when population was more distributed.

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Yeah I’m sure you guys slapped alg on first try to, prolly even had a couple afk. Lol. If it’s so easy why aren’t you 5k gs yet? Show me all these 4.9k and 90 percent parse restrictions cuz seeing someone spam that once don’t meant squat.

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I strongly agree with your post even though maybe it’s not the thread for me to write some huge comment (which I would) but IMO you are spot on, and you are correct in regards to the OPs gripe as well. What you described pretty much makes the game not “feel like Classic”.

I’ve never liked people judging others, especially over soulless things like numbers instead of a persons bad actions. The game may as well be Retail at that point, which is a game we already have for those who actually like this sort of thing.

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So you don’t like raiding with good players? You want Johnny 3 thumbs who can’t get out of fire in your raid because he’s a cool person who doesn’t ninja loot?

So u want me to find you all the hard mode parses where people die and still parse high 70s

The wand was an example of how easy it is to parse if u kill hm

You clearly don’t know what you are talking about at all.

Judging others is natural, but its the paradox of choice that comes from abundance that is the issue, not unlike what globalization has done in the real world. If you were a musician, there were more options for a modest local career years ago, but in a world where you can get lessons/shows/influence from anywhere in the world, it ironically is less of an equalizer, and more successful at amplifying the most popular names further.

Its not that these players are incapable of successful runs, but that the paradox of choice is biasing for false negatives, as its less costly for them in an environment of abundance. Although systems like LFG/LFD/LFR/Crossrealm/etc were added as a means of improving the social aspect of the game, it ironically fosters a more asocial environment, as it further removes people from the small communities in which they have evolved to operate.

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Is it too hard to believe that some people would rather deal with cool players who aren’t the best at the game than deal with good players who are jerks?

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Go for it.

You just assume people who are better than you are jerks? This is why people who actually perform well have such low patience for bad players.

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And yet people like you have no qualms with an RDF doing even less to form a group.

I don’t think you’ve understood anything I’ve said in any of this thread so I’m not going to reply to you again after this.

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I have to admit, I never thought about it like this.

Not digging up logs for a low tier troll

Go look at hardmode deaths they still parse high

Your troll parse is a 4

The point is that it’s a catch 22 for many players; you need to get into a raid to increase your gearscore, and smoother raids land you better parses via faster kill times etc, but you can’t get into those runs to increase your gearscore/parse precisely because of your gearscore/parse. There’s a need for these players, to backfill people who trail away from the game, so gatekeeping too much is eventually going to have a breaking point, but due to the paradox of choice on servers with an overabundance of players, the only people who experience the downsides of this are the newer characters.

Experience isn’t a good indicator of someone’s capability in this game, as PVE encounters are quite simple in classic, but its the best metric most people have, so it persists. Calling out the problems with that doesn’t mean that people want to raid with bots who won’t walk out fire.

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