WRA seems kind of well...dead for RP

I think you might have missed folks griping about horde players being generally terrible to alliance ones at cross faction events.

No I didnā€™t miss it - Iā€™m not disputing that thereā€™s rotten apples and total morons being awful ICly. I just dispute that itā€™s the ā€œgeneralā€ trend - that all or most crossfaction events have taken this form. In my experience on both factions itā€™s been wonderful far more often than not.

Iā€™m also trying to imply that some of those differences do tend to come about when one or both sides act stupidly nationalistic in a neutral setting, which always ends in debates with bad takes IC.

Isnā€™t it wild that both those things can be true? That your experiences have been good and those of many on the other side have been poor?

That would seem to track, at least on the Horde/Alliance difference.

Basically, if lots of horde folks are having fun and lots of alliance folks are not, that kinda makes senseā€¦ idk, maybe youā€™re not seeing what theyā€™re seeing.

I donā€™t do lots of neutral events so I can only tell you what Iā€™ve seen of the few I have been to, and as a horde character during those few events, the Alliance have been treated pretty poorly yeah.

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As I said though Iā€™ve been to quite a few neutral events on my Alliance main and really had no trouble whatsoever. Iā€™m not disputing that bad stuff happened, I just donā€™t think itā€™s fair to say that crossfaction RP is more often than not a bad experience - frankly I think itā€™s one of the best things to happen to this game - not so long ago it wasnā€™t even possible to RP crossfaction at all.

Thereā€™s bad elements to it, sure. Thereā€™s also good. Thatā€™s all Iā€™m saying. Iā€™m defending crossfaction RP as a general feature of the RP server - really WRA is our only hope for crossfaction RP even existing.

Dunno whatā€™s up with trying to be prove their experiences wrong then.

:man_shrugging:t3:

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Not my intention. Iā€™m trying to say thereā€™s more to it than just the bad experiences. That crossfac RP has good stuff too. Iā€™m not saying theyā€™re lying.

I went to a cross faction once and it was all blood elves and they ganked me.

Maybe itā€™s late and Iā€™m a bit loopy from watching Angels & Demons, but itā€™s just coming off like that a lil bit.

Anyway, Iā€™m sure itā€™s because of the population imbalance for sure. Horde hot shots feel comfortable in numbers to bully the lonely Alliance characters. And Horde characters as the aggressors makes a lot of sense ICly (whether or not it makes sense to us, rational rpers), so a /spit or a /growl at a market is not super uncommon. Iā€™ve seen it on both sides, but definitely Alliance are more likely to be the victim.

And the fact lots of neutral events are horde themed or leaning or horde guild ran, meaning Regular Horde RPers attend, whereas neutral alliance rpers attend who are likely neutral leaning.

I am kind of considering the opposite; I mainly play A-MG, but I have been giving some serious thought to rolling a character on A-WrA as of lately. I usually initiate or participate in walk-up stuff (anywhere in the world really if it seems people are okay with it, not only city) unless I can find a guild that fits. I also attend a far few RP events.

I am wondering if, despite the seemingly smaller population, there are any guilds or events ever centered around RP-PvP?

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The Call is an alliance guild thatā€™s all about RP-PvP. You should check them out for sure!

Other than that, not really.

Oh, that sounds great. I will see if I can find them. Thanks for the reply :]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/a-rp-pvp-have-you-heard-the-call/722225

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Thanks again! <3

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Listen Iā€™ve got a cold so maybe my brain is making me type bad and my phrasing is blegh. If so I apologise to all involved - my intention isnā€™t to make out that people are bull :poop: ing about negative experiences.

Just tryna speak up for the good aspects of crossfac RP. Because goshdamn it Iā€™m sick of the faction rivalry and I personally (as someone who plays both factions despite my little red background on the forums) have found it a very enjoyable and uplifting experience. Hell, Iā€™ve even done crossfaction guild events and itā€™s so good, from my own experiences.

Iā€™d hate for people to look at this thread and see ONLY the bad, you know? But maybe Iā€™m totally misreading this situation and my brain is going brrr for no good reason. Idk.

Perhaps we just gotta let people do some venting. I doubt anyone reading this thread is getting a good impression of the server regardless of what we try to do to make it sound nice lol

Itā€™s such a stupid insult in WoW. Most races have pointy ears.

Are you sure that wasnā€™t just a battleground.

I hated the ā€œIt Mattersā€ campaign because when it came out I was still reeling from a disintegrated friendship that was partly due to the drama coming out about BFA story beats. Kind of like Blizzard rubbing it in.

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This talk about how difficult it can be to be Alliance at cross-faction events is interesting considering I experienced something along these lines just last night. Had a blood elf hit on Fey, after which an orc walked up and stated that this belf, whom he knew IC, had ā€œfound himself a woman.ā€ When Fey responded that they were mistaken and she belonged to no one, the orc laughed and said, ā€œWeā€™ll see how long that lasts.ā€ Needless to say, I promptly excused myself IC.

Looking back, I get that it was just an IC thing. I wasnā€™t really upset at the characters OOC so much. But itā€™s interesting how the experience kinda aligns with what many here have openly stated and implied.

That said, Iā€™m not sure that the fact that certain events are cross-faction is what leads to less-than-favorable or unpleasant interactions. Granted, the Alliance/Horde dynamic, complete with all the history, bad blood, resentment, and general disposition factors in and contributes a unique set of variables that can lead to such interactions. But I wonder how much of it is purely a function of the larger Horde population here. With a larger Horde population (and the serverā€™s appeal for people to roll that faction) comes a higher likelihood that rougher individuals, both IC and OOC, will be found there. The situation was largely reversed when I was back on Moon Guard. The cross-faction events I managed to witness were filled with Alliance with Horde sprinkled sparsely throughout. The concentration of questionable actors was also reversed and skewed Alliance as a function of the larger population there as well.

I guess I donā€™t have much of a point to make here other than to say that I have experienced this a little myself and that it seems to be a complicated issue. Iā€™ll still attend cross-faction events going forward when I have the desire and will for RP in the first place, but Iā€™ll most certainly be wary.

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Blizzard: ā€œhaha isnā€™t it so quirky? Go break a horde players legs with an umbrellaā€

Me: stares at camera exhausted

Though to be fair Iā€™ve seen way more in appropriate faction comments coming from H-side people who do think itā€™s fun and quirky- not two days ago on twitter I saw an artist showing off an Alliance themed gaming chair only for a chorus of horde players to chime in about how poopy their faction choice is