I think you might have missed folks griping about horde players being generally terrible to alliance ones at cross faction events.
No I didnāt miss it - Iām not disputing that thereās rotten apples and total morons being awful ICly. I just dispute that itās the āgeneralā trend - that all or most crossfaction events have taken this form. In my experience on both factions itās been wonderful far more often than not.
Iām also trying to imply that some of those differences do tend to come about when one or both sides act stupidly nationalistic in a neutral setting, which always ends in debates with bad takes IC.
Isnāt it wild that both those things can be true? That your experiences have been good and those of many on the other side have been poor?
That would seem to track, at least on the Horde/Alliance difference.
Basically, if lots of horde folks are having fun and lots of alliance folks are not, that kinda makes senseā¦ idk, maybe youāre not seeing what theyāre seeing.
I donāt do lots of neutral events so I can only tell you what Iāve seen of the few I have been to, and as a horde character during those few events, the Alliance have been treated pretty poorly yeah.
As I said though Iāve been to quite a few neutral events on my Alliance main and really had no trouble whatsoever. Iām not disputing that bad stuff happened, I just donāt think itās fair to say that crossfaction RP is more often than not a bad experience - frankly I think itās one of the best things to happen to this game - not so long ago it wasnāt even possible to RP crossfaction at all.
Thereās bad elements to it, sure. Thereās also good. Thatās all Iām saying. Iām defending crossfaction RP as a general feature of the RP server - really WRA is our only hope for crossfaction RP even existing.
Dunno whatās up with trying to be prove their experiences wrong then.
Not my intention. Iām trying to say thereās more to it than just the bad experiences. That crossfac RP has good stuff too. Iām not saying theyāre lying.
I went to a cross faction once and it was all blood elves and they ganked me.
Maybe itās late and Iām a bit loopy from watching Angels & Demons, but itās just coming off like that a lil bit.
Anyway, Iām sure itās because of the population imbalance for sure. Horde hot shots feel comfortable in numbers to bully the lonely Alliance characters. And Horde characters as the aggressors makes a lot of sense ICly (whether or not it makes sense to us, rational rpers), so a /spit or a /growl at a market is not super uncommon. Iāve seen it on both sides, but definitely Alliance are more likely to be the victim.
And the fact lots of neutral events are horde themed or leaning or horde guild ran, meaning Regular Horde RPers attend, whereas neutral alliance rpers attend who are likely neutral leaning.
I am kind of considering the opposite; I mainly play A-MG, but I have been giving some serious thought to rolling a character on A-WrA as of lately. I usually initiate or participate in walk-up stuff (anywhere in the world really if it seems people are okay with it, not only city) unless I can find a guild that fits. I also attend a far few RP events.
I am wondering if, despite the seemingly smaller population, there are any guilds or events ever centered around RP-PvP?
The Call is an alliance guild thatās all about RP-PvP. You should check them out for sure!
Other than that, not really.
Oh, that sounds great. I will see if I can find them. Thanks for the reply :]
Thanks again! <3
Listen Iāve got a cold so maybe my brain is making me type bad and my phrasing is blegh. If so I apologise to all involved - my intention isnāt to make out that people are bull ing about negative experiences.
Just tryna speak up for the good aspects of crossfac RP. Because goshdamn it Iām sick of the faction rivalry and I personally (as someone who plays both factions despite my little red background on the forums) have found it a very enjoyable and uplifting experience. Hell, Iāve even done crossfaction guild events and itās so good, from my own experiences.
Iād hate for people to look at this thread and see ONLY the bad, you know? But maybe Iām totally misreading this situation and my brain is going brrr for no good reason. Idk.
Perhaps we just gotta let people do some venting. I doubt anyone reading this thread is getting a good impression of the server regardless of what we try to do to make it sound nice lol
Itās such a stupid insult in WoW. Most races have pointy ears.
Are you sure that wasnāt just a battleground.
I hated the āIt Mattersā campaign because when it came out I was still reeling from a disintegrated friendship that was partly due to the drama coming out about BFA story beats. Kind of like Blizzard rubbing it in.
This talk about how difficult it can be to be Alliance at cross-faction events is interesting considering I experienced something along these lines just last night. Had a blood elf hit on Fey, after which an orc walked up and stated that this belf, whom he knew IC, had āfound himself a woman.ā When Fey responded that they were mistaken and she belonged to no one, the orc laughed and said, āWeāll see how long that lasts.ā Needless to say, I promptly excused myself IC.
Looking back, I get that it was just an IC thing. I wasnāt really upset at the characters OOC so much. But itās interesting how the experience kinda aligns with what many here have openly stated and implied.
That said, Iām not sure that the fact that certain events are cross-faction is what leads to less-than-favorable or unpleasant interactions. Granted, the Alliance/Horde dynamic, complete with all the history, bad blood, resentment, and general disposition factors in and contributes a unique set of variables that can lead to such interactions. But I wonder how much of it is purely a function of the larger Horde population here. With a larger Horde population (and the serverās appeal for people to roll that faction) comes a higher likelihood that rougher individuals, both IC and OOC, will be found there. The situation was largely reversed when I was back on Moon Guard. The cross-faction events I managed to witness were filled with Alliance with Horde sprinkled sparsely throughout. The concentration of questionable actors was also reversed and skewed Alliance as a function of the larger population there as well.
I guess I donāt have much of a point to make here other than to say that I have experienced this a little myself and that it seems to be a complicated issue. Iāll still attend cross-faction events going forward when I have the desire and will for RP in the first place, but Iāll most certainly be wary.
Blizzard: āhaha isnāt it so quirky? Go break a horde players legs with an umbrellaā
Me: stares at camera exhausted
Though to be fair Iāve seen way more in appropriate faction comments coming from H-side people who do think itās fun and quirky- not two days ago on twitter I saw an artist showing off an Alliance themed gaming chair only for a chorus of horde players to chime in about how poopy their faction choice is