WQ ilvl 400 gear

Neither should warmode, bring back PvP servers and both problems are solved!

Yes and no. If by well you mean they flood you with tons of it and statistically speaking you should be able to cobble together a decent set w/o too much difficulty, then yes, I agree.

If you are looking for particular pieces for a build or a transmog, then I feel the current system falls woefully short of previous expansions that allowed us to use tokens to pick and chose.

I much prefer choice to random personally.

If your RL did that for the entire raid tier i can confidently say hes not a good raid leas. Its more fair if that restriction is there for just Jaina (id put it at 400 though). As ive said people are asking for such high ilvls because the lower ones, who in recent times may have been able to raid, are now excluded because gear level gives no insight to your actual skill.

You said your 410 ilvl would be just under normal. If your goal is to raid heroic thats not a problem. People are more accepting to take pugs based on their ilvl the first week or 2. There is no gear to be obtained from anything other than raiding. If you have a 420 or 425 ilvl by the time week 2 comes around next raid tier, people will know you have some heroic raid experience. And on top of that youd still be below the ilvl of the gear that drops from heroic. It should be like that all the time instead of just the first week or 2.

And no i dont assume the bad who ruined my key despite his high io was doing WQ. I assume he sucks at M+. Not everyone that sucks at M+ necessarily bought the carry. They may just be having an off day or they could actually not know wtf theyre doing and got to that level chance.

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A friend of mine cracked the code on this – two of their characters were getting iLevel 400 emissary rewards, two were getting iLevel 385 emissary rewards.

It turns out, you have to have the Heart of Azeroth at (iirc) 44 Azeroth Power (not sure what that translates into iLevel, it’s over 400) and your average gear score iLevel has to be (iirc) 394. After you qualify for those two things, you will then start seeing emissary rewards of iLevel 400 on that character (which can be Warforged/Titanforged higher, as well).

320-370 is one day so.

The crybabies we’re the reason that quest existed in the first place.

No no they were a different group of people. Alliance had a very valid reason to be upset about the way warmode went. Giving gear as incentive was not the solution though as it now affected raiding. PvP rewards should be given for pvp. Not raid rewards.

No, the fuss is from players that are tired of getting better loot from emissaries than they get from the heroic raid.

Its outdated at this point. Move on to heroic crucible like everyone else and get gear way above emissary loot. Seriously crying about end of season loot.

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i hated being stuck at the 89 value. i didnt get any options in wq for the higher levels. i mean, like 389, i didnt get teh 390 stuff

Heroic crucible drops 415 azerite? Because if not, then it isn’t “way above” emissary loot.

That’s why I’ve written “works well” not great. I’m not a fan of lottery based drops and prefer to work towards an objective.
for me the best one was the legendary cloak quest chain, I think Pandaria. That was truly epic quest chain, decent amount of work and great reward.
Unfortunately, as time passes things change and very often not for better…

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This is exactly it. I have no idea why so many people miss this is where an over abundance of gear is coming from, not from any other content.

Honestly, thats not true. Those 5/9H people that join pugs and seem to not know how to dps and avoid death have io scores of around 500. Youre not gonna deck yourself out in 400s easily by getting carried through +10s and they sure as hell arent getting into those 10s themselves cause even 10s have ridiculous ilvl requirements.

When you have an average ilevel of 392 with each slot being filled with a specific item level you’ll start seeing 400 Azurite caches and 395 weapons and gear caches.

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I have no idea what you are arguing. Mythic pluses can pretty well be run non stop and you most often get a piece from each one plus a guaranteed piece per week.

I have characters who I leveled up to 120 within a month of the start of the expansion, who have done every emissary, every warfront and still don’t have average ilvl 400 gear. I only have 2 characters with 400 ilvl gear from doing just that content.

Anyone who spends that much time playing and doing mythic plus would have been long ago over ilvl 400.

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Bro, 8.2 is coming out in a handful of weeks. Most, if not all of that gear is going to be obsolete. The ilvl bloat is to catch up players before hand. If you think that emissary gear is better than what dedicated raiders are getting you’re playing a different game. You know, heroic raids are only so groups can get geared and ready for mythics.

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Wait does that mean if you run heroic raiding, you should get 400 ilevel WQ items.

And thus the other crybabies got it lowered again, funny how that works, guess it’s World Of Crybabies :rofl:

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That applies to much more than gaming. When I contrast my generation with that of my grandparents, well, they were strong. They fought in world wars, beat back fascism, brought about the modern era.

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