Y’all don’t remember when the token came to Retail?
Yea, it was Wrath.
Ok but why are they adding tokens to a game that has ~6 months of gameplay left? Are they going whale hunting as a finale?
It’s a business, you pay money you get a product. What’s hard to understand about that? This is a business practice that a massive amount of developers are doing, don’t like it quit.
Ok? What if all the potential token buyers quit.
Or all the AH sellers.
Been hearing that same thing with “insert blizz game here” for 20 years as well. Show me the stats that pservers have more players than blizz.
You are really protective of blizz for only have 12 posts lol
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What if the token brings back more people than there are people quitting over it. Blizz is a multi billion $ company. You don’t think they have a team of people all making north of 6 figures that study how to make the company more money?
and insert personal attacks to justify your lack of understanding.
We do think that. That’s why most of us hate the current, recent, and past changes made to the game since we originally started playing. I don’t understand why you are dependent on Blizzard’s financial success for self-esteem. There’s no reason to act as their shield. We’re giving negative feedback to things we don’t like.
and insert personal attacks
It’s just odd behavior is all. Usually you guys have thousands of posts because all you do is hang out on the forums defending Lord Blizzard all day.
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They did probably study the user base left in wrath and concluded that it would create plenty of profits.
However, what is hard to measure is the impact of perception. And the people who still had the perception that wotlk was ‘classic’ is now quickly fading.
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Well it raises a good point, that they studied the market and released WoW tokens quietly while releasing JJ loudly. They’re obviously being subversive with a product that they have not announced any future plans with. So you have whales that are going to buy into end game loot for the next 6 months, from players that are too committed to quit in most cases, to be able to quit in protest.
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Go look them up urself. I’m not going to do ur homework for you.
Last 20 years;
WoW popular has been reinvigorated by the re-release of old content. BFA saw the most drop off of subs ever. I will grant blizzard a little pass for DF there is some good work done there. But, Solo Shuffle was release 5 years too late. Even then, 30+min queues for dps (that shows a large number of people wanted to play that mode). Wrath was on life support. Releasing the wow token is an attempt at keeping it alive and I believe it might cuz a different response (but I could be wrong).
d3 - dead on arrival they remove part of the game that a lot of people were looking forward too PvP and AH. PoE is thousand times better (small indie company, right?).
HotS - great job here, right?
Hearthstone - Very good idea and still late to the masses. Granted I dont follow much if anything to do with HS.
Overwatch - I didnt care for it on release and I dont care for it now. So, someone else that has played it can chime in. But, there was recently an uproar about OW2… something about leaving out PvE?
Starcraft 2 - I think they are waiting for everything else to dry up before any real resource is wasted here.
Diablo Immortal - lmao… nuff, said.
They better hope D4 hits a homerun.
The token came in warlords my friend. Takes 2 minutes to wowhead it.
I’m not acting as their shield, if what you say is true, “Most” people hate the current. recent. and past changes, why are so many people still playing the game?
I’m just pointing out that people have been crying blizz is going to fail for x reason for the last 20 years and yet here they are, still one of the biggest gaming companies. At some point, you have to put your bigboy pants on and accept that you don’t know best.
I will explain any successful company on this planet for you. Profits > your feelings.
You think you know what’s best, but you don’t or else you’d be the ceo of a multi billion dollar company.
I came to look for some info on something unrelated, and decided to make some posts. You do know that the amount of posts you have is different per character right? I could have 100k posts for all you know.
As far as defending blizzard, I didn’t say I agree with what they do, I’m saying you’re wrong. If you were right, blizzard would have went bankrupt years ago. If people like you weren’t so quick to jump to conclusions about everything, maybe you’d see my point.
If the token came to WOTLK then don’t be surprised if down the road they implement it into classic era.
Oh, it will come out. Just a matter of time.
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Classic was never going to be “classic”. That was just an illusion people had. The gaming community has evolved far too much since 2004 for any game released back then to play out the same as re-releasing it now.
And not everyone agrees with you, why is that difficult for you to comprehend? It has nothing to do with white knighting.
I don’t have 30 hours a week to grind out gold, I want to play the game. Retail going through a suck phase has pushed me back into Classic. But even frost weave bags are stupid expensive for someone at 65 with all of 200 gold. Now I have gold to get things I need without having to wait weeks.
And things like…
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Are not necessary, it’s just childish.
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Any “whales” have already bought millions of gold from 3rd party sites. The token changes nothing for them. Where do you think the hundreds of thousands of gold some GDKP runs see came from? You really think all that gold was farmed by players?
Of the multiple guilds I have been a part of since vanilla classic, a very large number of those players have been raid logging since MC. yet they all manage to have thousands and thousands of gold for gear, consumes, ect.
If players are too committed to quit, obviously they are enjoying something Wotlk has to offer more than the token will effect them.
Know best about what? lol Know best about making money? I don’t care. I used to buy every collectors edition for wow and I quit playing retail years ago. I came back to classic because this was the best part.
You have to understand that Blizz hit a peak, and it takes a long time to come down from that peak. You also have delusional people that don’t have as much time or awareness as others to see the writing on the wall or the horrors that eventually take over. Those are the current subs that stuck it out through the lowest of the low points. Every time someone signs up again to play wow again, it’s based on hope, and sometimes people find some semblance of what they liked about the game from the past.
Profits > your feelings
Ok, I don’t see your point in being in this thread or saying this. I know what makes the game good. I don’t see what profits have to do with anything. If you exploit people’s gambling drive with loot boxes, does that make the game a good game? No, but it’s profitable. Who cares? Moot point.
Different for each character
Ok that makes sense. So you probably do have thousands of comments defending blizz.
Blizz would have went bankrupt.
No. Like I said. They hit the biggest peaks in game dev history, and that can last a long time. They’re not going to collapse over night. However, it is apparent that they don’t intend to do business with the same consumers for very long periods of time, representative of practices of very old businesses. Maybe they will continue to master their scams. I didn’t see the cleverness of wow tokens layered under JJ coming.
Why is that difficult to comprehend?
@Rabititus. It’s difficult for you to understand that people aren’t disagreeing with us on the basis of game design. They’re disagreeing with us on the basis of “Good corporate profit logic.” This has no bearing on the climate it creates to have wow tokens in game. If I asked you, how will this shape the in game economy? You would say, “Who cares? Blizz is making money.” It’s nonsensical for people to be apprehensive to the feedback we’re providing.
Not necessary, it’s just childish
What is? Your defending of blizz? Or my accusations that you guys are acting as their shield?
We’re giving game design feedback, and you guys are giving us flack by explaining profit margins and business schemes.
If players are too committed to quit, obviously they are enjoying something Wotlk has to offer more than the token will effect them.
I do not want to subscribe to a game that I’m contemplating quitting because of the change to the design that changes my role in the game I’m playing. I think those gold buyers should be banned just as much as the gold sellers.
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