Your gear also lasts an entire expansion here as well, but it’s not nearly as good as gear brought by new patches. Again, it’s the same
Seldom was anyone holding on to anything brought in a previous patch. Even in the base game, this was only a few items if any.
And I doubt anyone wants a design where you’re required to clear multiple old raids in order to access a new one, that’s an insane grind
Them saying seasons is code for: “we’re lazy now and you only get 1 raid per patch”.
Um no you are just spouting straight up nonsense, done reading your posts already. Bye.
It’s also nonsense to say this hasnt been happening for almost all of WoWs life.
dipping out at the slightest opposition to your opinion, I love it
Yeah, right after Wrath, right after the game dropped into the toilet. Big coweenkydink.
Too bad you feel that way, but burn out is a natural progression. I can’t tell you how many MMO’s I’ve played and then got burned out, and left, and many never to return to. Sorry you feel this way. Maybe after a bit of a break, you will feel differently. If not, it is OK to move on .
that just happens ppl lol. u cant been enagged in something 4ever
hell i get tired p fast and i always come back when i got the urge
but ya i feel the same but with xiv…but the loops at the end of the day
is the same, u kill crap to get wear crap to kill even better crap.
its more abt how fun it is to do all that…
The balance is worse.
If your not playing with friends, at least most of the time, then you probably won’t stick around. Wow is the most fun when people have fun things to do together. All my nostalgia is playing with my friends and raiding in groups.
I used to love when raiding was the only way to get the best gear because it gave top end players a reason to play with the bottom tier players. Now they just run M+ and Mythic raids and never even look at the low end. It caters to what people want but at the expense of community. Now you can do all the content in the game with out ever talking to another player. Which is good for what people want, but will now slice away another bit of community. I love delves, But I play them with my wife and my friends, M+ is annoying, and raiding I don’t have time for. So there is a part of wow I will probably never return to. But that is the way things go. In my perfect world raids would be big and easy and people would run them together, to get good gear. Each boss would have maybe 3-4 mechanics to do, and people would just have fun killing big monsters. But that doesn’t exist. Instead we get M+ with stacking harder debuffs so the top players can challenge them selves, Mythic raids so the top raiders can work together to figure it how to juggle 9-12 mechanics simultaneously, LFR, so casuals can see the raids, and now story mode so you can do so solo, Delves so casuals can progress and get gear, AI dungeons so you can avoid elitist jerks yelling at new players, and none of the player will ever have to put up with the inconvenience of people who don’t like what they like. So wow is sterile, and it will continue to be sterile. I love all players and want them all to be happy. I myself use all the aforementioned things, but I can’t help but miss what we all lost along the journey to give more groups what the want.
Retail hasn’t seen the type of player engagement or retention that Classic did when it was released and through its vanilla content cycle. Nostalgia contributed to the first couple months, engaging gameplay and community experiences kept people around after that.
I want that type of thing for retail but it won’t happen as long as they keep their current stagnant game design/philosophies. People here say that “that’s just the way games work now” but Classic showed it’s not. It’s not the player’s job to figure out why that is, it’s Blizzard’s.
I posted this in a different thread earlier and got flamed and the dude was like, “Omg who cares if the community is fractured blah blah blah”.
So much for the game being an MMO I guess.
Legion had this too. The top players were mixing and playing with everyone to get legendaries and titan forges and AP.
The only ones who care are the ones who used to have that community. It’s hard not to miss it. The Leroy Jenkins meme only works when you have those two completely different groups of people together.
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Yup. Which is why I didn’t bother with Classic TBC or Wrath. I played with IRL friends in both of those and knew I would never get that experience back.
Absolute fact huh? Everybody agrees? Not a subjective opinion at all?
I very much agree with this sentiment.
With that said my pugging experience has been more positive than negative. There will always be jerks but there are plenty of nice people as well.
Personally? Wanted delves to grab my interest more. Was kinda hoping they would be closer to Greater Rifts back in Diablo 3. I also wanted the game to be tested before release lol
I would agree, but you have people on here complaining that gearing is still too slow. Problem is that fast gearing kinda doesn’t work in a non-seasonal/sandbox mmo. I mean, imagine if it took 3-4 weeks to get your best-in-slot gear for whatever content you play. And that’s more or less it for the remainder of the expansion. No more gear progress outside of the occassional sidegrade. People would quit in droves.
Horizontal progression would work much better if WoW was something other than the gear treadmill.
lol. Sure you are. This isn’t for imaginary internet points at all…
its either give those groups what they want…or they find a different game and take their sub $$$ with them and now blizzard has even less motivation to add anything at all.
I’ll take the fractured community, because honestly there is content I was NEVER gonna do in the first place regardless. Id quit playing WoW first. And Im positive there are long lists of players just like myself.
Its better to give us content we enjoy so we keep paying that sub $$$ than lose us entirely.