ur paying blizzard for the gold in a lot cases.
The same way that threads like “Don’t nerf Cobalt Assembly XP” drew people that were selling/buying boosts like moths to a flame, so will “WoW is/isn’t P2W” threads.
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And? That isn’t pay to win. That isn’t even close. Even if you pay other players to get content done, that isn’t pay to win by any close measure champ.
As I stated and I don’t think you bothered reading:
When you can individually pay money for gear from them to gain an advantage then you can claim that, otherwise you just don’t like what is called player economy.
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What are you winning? Gear that will be outdated in three months? Achievements matter to who? Nobody cares that you cleared Fate raids when they were a “thing.” You could pay to win a mount, sure. But in a game where I have over 300 mounts, one mount that probably never really be seen much isn’t worth the price I’ve seen advertised on The Jailer Mythic runs. I mean I get the argument. But you don’t really win anything in a progressive game where the characters literally reset every update. Or you go broke keeping up with the joneses, but if you are doing that are you really “winning?”
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What are you winning ? The opportunity to spend money on this game. What else ?
Doesnt people want WoW to copy FFXIV ? Well, it is going that way …
I would say that’s a him problem and not a you problem. They’d also likely be a complete pill to play with and would come at the expense of your enjoyment of the game… so carry on doing whats fun for you.
Really? How does one spend gold to get into mythic before mythic week? Vault’s not out for another half a week, so who do I pay to get loot TODAY?
I should have stated that anything you can buy in the game with real money can be obtained rather easily through just playing the game in a normal amount of time.
Boosts will cover most of what people often use as arguments.
Tokens the rest, because once you have them, you have gold, which is basically a pass to get anything you want, and boosts among them.
You know most instances once you have a given gear are just knowing macros to use and getting your favorite smart input (gaming mice, keyboard) to just keep pressing that slot and the macro gets the timing and the need. Because bosses in WoW dont react, they just do what they do.
So you can make a nice “cyborg” as I call it, and get some good old fashiong alt tab multibox, which wont be a problem since there is no 3rd party software besides the gaming set which is not considered a problem.
So I can get 3 characters to run instances all the time while I myself do something else, and lend it to people by a fee in gold, to take them over to Mythic whatever. They are happy, I am happy, and I earned to play, and they payed to win.
Just a simple trade.
The same as if you didn’t buy the run, except for when they’re also auctioning gear which is also a possibility as they can funnel gear to players.
That’s not direct.
I don’t get why this is a deal breaker for people. So what if wow is pay to win?
There is no denying you can buy gear with real money, that’s just a fact at this point. However it does not really take away from any of the game play at all so who cares?
As people love when someone does it, here it goes, your favorite person in YT:
Now, you will make a thumb for your vid hlding couple 20s and couple 1s is good.
… not the very definition of p2w or anything at all there (Blizzard knows what they are doing) …
From the same kind of people that says “free” only means “for no payment”.
For someone who has been playing the game at a high level for many years, “normal amount of time” means something very different from a new player who has never done competitive videeogames previously, who will probably be mired in the Group Finder indefinitely.
I would say that “free” should inherently mean “no cash paid”. But there is another meaning that is often used in the forum, that suggests that the content some player did to earn some item or other consideration was of no value to the writer. Therefore the player who got that thing didn’t deserve it, because they didn’t do anything, according to the writer. Therefore they got that thing for “free”.
Your example was D:I which I’ve heard can take literal years of play to obtain what can be purchased.
That is not the case with WoW. Gold to buy BoE gear and/or carries is easy to obtain. It will not take anywhere close to years. More like days or weeks at the most. Thus pay for convenience
You should say “okay”
Because who cares.
That being said this is just another stir the pot thread…yay…
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Originally. But they fixed that to make sure free to play players could never earn what they needed to be bis.
It’s your opinion that buying player power with gold that can be purchased in the cash shop is not a pay to win mechanic. I personally don’t think most players can farm enough gold to buy mythic raid carries in real time.
Well then WoW’s monetization model is nothing like D:I.
That’s pay for convenience because it can be obtained by normal play. I disagree with you about being able to obtain enough gold to buy mythic raid carries in a reasonable amount of time. It can be done. Gold is easy to make in this game just by playing.