Lookout when they realise in a year or sos time that there will be no new content. Considering how much these people whine on the forums, it’s going to be unbearable here.
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Remember the last time they dumped on the casuals it was WoD and the lost millions in a few months. Its not like all these casuals are running around with 415+ item lvl and who cares if bad players get gear they can’t do anything with it and who know someone gets a few really good pieces it might inspire them to get good. Even in wrath when I was raiding heroic I didn’t care if casuals got gear.
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@Warbo You’re a good guy. Can I give you a virtual hug? hugs
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Let me know when you hit 415 ilvl then just doing warfronts.
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Can agree more. People complaining about having to juggle 40 players for a several night a week raid sound tough?
Join one of the new EQ TLP servers. There are already batphone guilds starting up. Batphone means you have to be ready to log in and raid as soon as you get a text because one of the bosses is up. The bosses are world bosses and once killed they dont come back for a few days - for everyone on that entire server. Not just YOUR instance. No tagging - DPS race. Whoever’s raid does more damage wins. Your raid does 49% of damage despite getting there first? Sorry done for a few days - you lost.
And oh yeah, you need 72 people willing to do that.
WoW Classic and retail IS casual. And I am happy it is.
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I resubbed recently. You can solo now with summonable NPCs.
Honestly one easy short term fix is to increase the rewards from the max difficulty content and make it so there’s no possible way for casual players to titanforge up to that level so you absolutely must participate in that hard content if you want those rewards. Also add masterloot back to the mythic difficulty
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Vanilla was more casual friendly than WoW is today.
Everything today is streamlined so raiders can get to raiding more quickly and not feel “forced” to do other content.
Back in the day I wasn’t a raider but I had a reputation for being among the best for dungeons on my server. I was a great healer, I came prepared, I had items to summon the optional bosses, I kept up on my professions…
I still felt like putting time in, even if I didn’t raid, had meaning. Now it’s you put time in to raid or you…level alts I guess? Nothing else to do.
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Fact is there aren’t enough of your kind to create a sustainable business model. This means the game is neither for you nor is it about you.
Move along
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Hardcore gaming… a short-term business model with very little revenue or potential.
BGs have gear scaling to a point, so yes you should be able to compete with lower gear. It’s designed that way.
100% agree with this. Its not “casual” questers that make the world smaller/gearing easier- its the “casual” raiders.
No problems with either play style - but people claiming the gear dropping is for folks that don’t raid is a bit silly, when its all designed to get folks who want to do higher difficulty raiding into doing that faster.
Nothing to do with “bads”, as the OP put it, more to do with a portion of the player base that doesn’t live in the game 24/7.
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This attitude is precisely why I support things like LFR and casual progression outside of raiding.
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I will agree on this with some aspects. You’re not wrong about raiders. But leveling, you’re literally shown where to go.
We had addons that did that in the day, Blizzard just made it part of the UI eventually.
But long leveling time and world traversal was also something us non-endgame focused folks enjoyed to an extent (I mean water totem was a bit much for the level you got it at…I kinda liked it but I understand why many didn’t).
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That wasnt always true, with the add-on Tom Tom, Bliz though heck we will just throw in the quest tracker in, but in the old days you had to read, yes read the quest and guess where to go, and explore…find out where your target was, or what you need to get. I tell you The outlands was very frustrating at times…lol
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I didn’t use addons back then, to be honest. My PC (at the time) was just good enough to play the game.
I do miss original totems. Shaman is a class I look forward to trying again. One shotting level 60s in PVP from a double WF crit was awesome. What I missed more was Call of the Elements.
Oh yeah, Outlands… but I guess some of us were used to it by then, to a degree.
WoW isn’t too casual friendly. Casual content can be progressive and rewarding. Just like progressive raiding. Currently WoW is below casual friendly. It’s Blizzard that has such a low view of all its customers.
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Which is why the fact that it’s been dumbed down substantially since then is pretty sad.
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