The MMO part of WoW is great, it’s very stream lined to the point where you can just sit in the capital and not really have to go anywhere.
You can LFG all day long, get teleported everywhere, all the vendors and any important location is all centralized and from an MMO perspective it’s great at being able to manage millions and millions of players.
But the RPG part of WoW was sacrificed in order to make this happen
From a new player PoV none of the story makes sense, the old world is mostly irrelevant and the lore that’s been built up for over a decade has been retcon’d and morphed into random segments in order to push new game play options.
The whole Ally vs Horde thing has become irrelevant, we don’t even care about the Old Gods anymore, apparently 10+ years of story/lore is all just the doing of the Jailer who we see die once and never comes up again.
I also find that the game is missing players in the open world, and quests really have no meaning besides fetching stuff and are just skipped entirely just so people can experience the MMO portion faster and there doesn’t seem to be any real sense of danger or urgency anymore.
Maybe one day we can go back to the RPG roots of WoW that made this game so successful in the first place, but for now WoW is a pure lobby based MMO and there doesn’t seem to be any sign of stopping that.
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Even the MMO part isn’t great. Most people don’t even quest together any more.
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People never quested together.
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This isn’t true, I am playing a lot of Classic and we team up all the time to take on Elites and other quests.
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Welcome back, bestie. Happy to hear you’ve been enjoying classic. 
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It’s like real life, most people you meet keep to themselves, but there are plenty of kind people in the game regardless.
People never quested together.
Garmuck is right.
When did you start playing the game? Because I definitely remember a time early on when we still had group quests and everything in the world wasn’t soloable, where people actually did in fact quest together quite often.
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Late vanilla.
These were usually skipped or only temporarily grouped for.
Spending 15 minutes doing ring of blood then going back to questing solo isn’t really grouping and questing as a group, which…definitely wasn’t super common. Not uncommon, but most people just kind of did their own thing.
Nope it’s not like real life. Most anti-social people in real life keep to themselves, but they aren’t the majority. MMOs are social games. They are made specifically to play with other people.
If WoW was more RPG I wouldn’t play it. I haven’t read a line of quest text in 10 years.
Late vanilla.
How late? Late enough for you to be power leveled through dungeons by higher level players? If so, then you didn’t experience classic.
These were usually skipped or only temporarily grouped for.
According to who? I’ve met a TON of people over the years that love questing in groups. Most have left the game obviously because it’s no longer a social game.
Spending 15 minutes doing ring of blood then going back to questing solo isn’t really grouping and questing as a group, which…definitely wasn’t super common. Not uncommon, but most people just kind of did their own thing.
Again, where are you getting these ‘most peoples’ from? Ring of blood is one small quest in Burning crusade out of all of Vanilla, BC, and Wrath. It definitely isn’t the only group content people got together for. Are you forgetting all the class quests, crafting quests, dungeon quests, and item set quests from classic?
Yeah, people don’t group when they’re speed running through old content or when they arrive late to the party. Go figure.
I never did dungeon power leveling but thanks for gatekeeping.
Vanilla =/= Classic
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I never did dungeon power leveling but thanks for gatekeeping.
Stop with the buzzwords dude. You simply didn’t experience.
Vanilla =/= Classic
Also stop with the semantics. You know what I meant.
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What forced most leveling grouping was not having shared tagging.
Next was the few elite quests per zone.
Do you think we should go back to that?
Silly me just questing by myself like most other people.
Well,op, I guess me dying because my barrier wasn’t strong enough and being a one button wonder isn’t a Rpg then 
What forced most leveling grouping was not having shared tagging.
Do you think we should go back to that?
No it didn’t. Back in classic, quest items weren’t shared whether you were in a group or not. Shared tagging wouldn’t have had any affect on that. Unless you meant shared loot?
I mean yeah. People like you pretty much ruined the game for the rest of us.
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I have a level 10 tauren rogue if anyone would like to quest together. I like the original leveling method. If you wish to chromie time, count me out.
but just think… We can enjoy Stranglethorn vale together. 