WoW Development Stalled

Depends entirely on contracts.
Cali being what Cali is, I can imagine it is required by law to pay workers severence after letting them go, as well as giving some weeks if not months warning beforehand, so that they have time to find work elsewhere.

Yes, it is easy to say from the other side, but really… from the crap I hear, the whistle should have been blown as a collective a long time ago. It sickens me that people are so extremely fearful, it sickens me that no one chose to privately warn the women who decided to get into the company. It sickens me that women did not try to warn other women.

It is overall just disgusting. Not just the treatment, but the fear too.

There is no 9.2.

The next launch will skip right to 10.00, the next expansion in 2024 in an attempt to compete with FFXIVs seventh expansion.

From what I know, even before this, it came out that Blizzard’s pay and worker conditions were absolutely abysmal. Normally I would be surprised they didn’t get sued sooner over that if nothing else, but you know.

Hello, I doubt that 9.2 will be scrapped. Ion made it quite clear a while ago that 9.2 was going to happen, and I don’t see Blizzard backing away from that. If Ion said something will be done, then rest assured it will be done.

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Beak, that gave me one of the most cynical chuckles I’ve ever had.

Thank you for your service. :us:

I’m surprised people still believe other companies would treat an IP better after stuff like Star Wars.

It’s naïve to think any company wouldn’t use it as easy money or that any are “good guys” yet here we are.

He also implied that blue eyes for elves would not be a customization option.

So I trust you beak… I trust you man!

See then we are in alignment on what we want. The question becomes then what the best way to get there is, and that’s why I haven’t cast a judgment yet. I can’t till I know more on the matter. The risk of mislabeling innocent as guilty is just too high.

Sometimes, it’s really hard to. Case and point, what would happen to you if you blew the whistle on Twitter for similar? You know very well what would happen. Let’s be completely honest man.

Your post would vanish, you’d be fired, maybe intimidated with a threat of physical violence, and most people would say you were a disgruntled employee. They would not believe you. Especially if you were a guy making that claim. Why? Because it didn’t fit their political or ideological narrative.

There is also a good chance that if you were a woman, people wouldn’t believe you either, because Twitter would make sure to trash your rep, and because of the power they wield over other companies very few of the usual ‘defenders’ would rush to your defense.

The same is in play here. We need to cut that cancer out fully. Not leave one side or the other to regrow into a more deadly and quicker to spread variant.

I don’t care what politics or gender a person is, we need equality for both and to treat all cases of harassment, and other such grievances the same. That’s why the statue of “Justice” is Blind. Because it’s supposed to when the purpose isn’t corrupted by humans with personal agendas, to do precisely that.

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It is exceptionally unlikely that the 9-5ers had/have contracts.

So… White men were hired and promoted on the basis of how well they tolerated violations of employment law, and that’s how you think employment in the world should be run.

A bunch of weak, nerdass women gropers being a threat? Nah man.

This however I can believe.

But the word would have been out there.

How is this different than the past year?

Now no work is being done at all.
Before this, the men at the very least gave their work to the women… allegedly.

Your going to have to provide proof of that claim, or I’m going to simply disregard as racist rhetoric that was evoked to silence the discussion. It was also a very pathetic attempt at a straw-man that I won’t dignify.

What would people like you do without that card I wonder?
Moving on to more intelligent posts…

They probably complete their work, go on call and then if they were good employees get called back in to do more work. Has very little to do with their gender or skin hue, and everything with what they were capable of producing.

My friend who worked in the field? He was crippled. Wheel-Chair bound. Yet because he was capable of doing the work and doing it well, showing up on time for work; and being in general a good employee he was brought back for more work. So too were several other girls on his team, one of which outranked him as his lead. :man_shrugging:

That’s amazing for your friend, however, I highly doubt that is the case at Blizzard after having read the legal filing.

Hell, I knew another guy who commuted 95 miles to work one way. And this was during the “George Bush era” Gas Prices of 4.15 or so a gallon, so the poor fellow was spending 1/2 of his paycheck on gas. But he came in anyways every day, even overtime because he was passionate. He also has a very serious problem with what he’s seeing right now unfold.

Again, that is great. What happened to the people you know, though, has no bearing on this.

The upper echelon of any large corporation is heavily protected. The best we can hope for is a top HR executive being asked to leave, not fired. The rest of upper management will ignore it while their staff of lawyers delays and delays any legal proceedings until the subject gets memory holed or the defendants get a payout with a non disclosure agreement.

I expect the “frat boy” atmosphere to be severely chilled however, which is ultimately the goal right?

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But it does. Because it’s tied into what people are alleging about Activision Blizzard. Those are people who were a part of that company, the second fellow being a member of said company till 09. He would love to reapply but unfortunately, the toxic nature of the workplace toward men of his skin color made him decide to go into a different field.

The point I was making before you decided to try and turn crass and rude, is that for all of the guilty people that may exist in said company there are far more innocent employees who either could not speak on the matter, or never saw such behavior at all.

I have no doubt there are people who did terrible things in Blizzard Entertainment. All humans are fallible. But it is important that it is the correct people who pay for those actions. Blindly raving for everyone to be punished would be like demanding Ythisens, Bornakk, Vrakthris, or countless others to be fired for something that a completely different set of employees said or did.

That’s why we need to wait and see what the facts of the case are. If there are any people who are using this as a convenient way to purge upper management positions, simply so they can advance; that too needs to be known and dealt with.

We don’t want to incentivize men or women to make false claims of harassment in the name of their career. We don’t want men not to apply for the jobs, in fear of that being their fate. We also do not want to give a pass to men or women who do in fact engage in harassment of anyone.

If you can’t understand those things, your not making solutions but more problems.

Sounds like an idiot.