WoW Classic went from ~350k players to 190k in less than 30 days

On IF.Pro if you chart the playerbase for Classic you can look back up to 1-2 years and see this steady rise in players from Vanilla to TBC, it ended up peaking and averaging around 300-350k consistently which is incredibly good for a 15 year old MMO reboot.

But if you check the chart for the last 30 days alone, we dropped almost half of our playerbase during a time where Wrath is being advertised and we have a Pre-patch going on and even with a 50% XP Buff AND people running more raids than before to gear up we have lost an insane amount of people.

My guess is that:

  • Long server queues with no viable solutions

  • Changing Original Wrath into this bastardized version with no RDF/BG queue from anywhere/iLevel Changes/etc

  • Heavy handed boosting bans/ selling their own boosts

I think all of these things have left a sour taste in peoples mouth and we’re seeing the outcome of all these short sighted and bad decisions.

Blizzard needs to get a handle on their game before we bleed even more players.

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It tracks raid lockouts and arena ladders.

Arena ladders are in the off season (so 0 results) and raiding is basically useless at this point because gear will be obsolete by level 73 - so less total people are raiding.

There isn’t a player drop off, there is a data drop off.

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it tracks logs
raids/arenas

raids are dead outside of pugs and arena is dead
ocf it will drop

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I dunno, all these server queue threads seem to support his claims.

I’m guessing it’s legit.

IF pro is incredibly flawed data and you are ridiculous to use it as a source for any kind of opinion.

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Idk about this, I know a lot of people are doing SWP and I still see a lot of people running raids and GDKPs as the gear you get can carry you to 77+.

Most ppl arent raiding… and if they are they arent logging. Using that to form any kind of opinion is silly at best

Literally does not make sense. How could the population go DOWN as the queue times go UP? As others have said, IF.Pro tracks raid lockouts and arena ladders, not actual population

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yes there are indeed
but not as much as before ergo , the drop off

i have 2 characters 100% bis way before prepatch and im not touching any raids
im getting alts and other stuff
and im sure many are just doing that too, specially DKs

pre patch raids are so easy is not even fun

data is fairly accurate on what it does

which is active raiding/arena participation

taking it out of context and thinking it refers to actual population is where the flaw is

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Sure… but it tracks VERY specific data… and OP is using it to talk about the entire game…

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IF.pro will not be accurate again until two or so weeks into Wotlk itself.

It tracks WarcraftLogs and PvP leaderboards.

All of the raiders who care enough to use WarcraftLogs are not raiding at the moment. The PvP leaderboard doesn’t exist because the Arena Season is over.

IF.pro is not an accurate representation of Classic WoW right now.

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it never was
you just said it yourself

warcraft logs and pvp leaderboard

it is max level content
and even if , not everyone is part of those, so it will never be accurate to show actual total pop

Yee we all agree… OP is a silly goose

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In terms of showing Classic WoW’s active total population, you’re right, it’s not ever going to truly be accurate.

Still, I 100% think that IF.pro can be a good representation of a server’s active playerbase when we’re not in the middle of a prepatch.

I for one will be interested to see what the numbers show when we’re a couple weeks into Wotlk Classic and everyone is raiding and PvPing at lvl 80.

Faulty data leads to a specious conclusion.

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i would say is more of an estimate

data is fine
people are just misinterpreting it
sometimes on purpose

sadly wrath just isnt as popular as people think it is

Yes these endless queue times really prove that theory :clown_face: