WoW Classic led to the biggest quarterly increase in subs in WoW history

[Fumblefinger-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I would bet Burning Crusade more. Wrath was more of an intro in to modern WoW. Although had a really good story to sugar coat things.

[Notagin-kul-tiras (Notagin)]

With this in mind I’m surprised paid server transfers haven’t been offered to those who didn’t meet the parameters when free transfers were offered, considering how many times the topic has come up.

Activision, please listen to your money makers, the Blizzard population. We’re driving you.

No.
You were told paid server transfers aren’t a thing in classic, you were warned paid transfers would never be allowed in classic.

Did Blizz really say that paid servers transfers would never be allowed in Classic?

[Milanfrozen-stalagg]

If I were part of the current dev team and didn’t have a hand in Vanilla, I’d be pretty embarrassed right about now. I mean unless I was lobbying for changes in the direction of classic or directly responsible for it in some way.

[Eredil-illidan]

I’ll play TBC. WOTLK nop

[Tankskie-heartseeker]

Lets not get too excited here folks. BFA was also the best selling expansion according to blizz.

Subs were at an all time low in retail.

The % increase would be inflated as a result of low subs. Also the game has been on a steady decline since WOTLK (before that was a steady incline).

Sooo mathematically, if there were 500k subs in retail, 750k classic players would be a massive increase in subs 150% increase in the quarter.

This is just fudging numbers to rebuild confidence in shareholders.

[Illionus-area-52]

You’re wrong and blizzard has already stated you’re wrong in a post. Paid transfer was a thing.

[Notagin-kul-tiras (Notagin)]

ActiBlizz’s 10-Q provides the Q3’19 to Q3’18 sub rev info I wrote in my comment.

Where did that info cite that most classic players are from retail ?

How would that data represent someone like myself, when i have technically played retail, but only briefly to fill time until classics release.

See the “my premise” part.

[Eshon-arugal]

With this in mind I’m surprised paid server transfers haven’t been offered to those who didn’t meet the parameters when free transfers were offered, considering how many times the topic has come up.

Activision, please listen to your money makers, the Blizzard population. We’re driving you.

No.
You were told paid server transfers aren’t a thing in classic, you were warned paid transfers would never be allowed in classic.

Did Blizz really say that paid servers transfers would never be allowed in Classic?

Blizzard/the entire player base warned everyone repeatedly that paid transfers would never be a thing.

But just like with pvp servers, no amount of warnings can stop idiots from rolling pvp only the whine about it and demand transfers later.

We told you, you didn’t listen, you only have yourself to blame.

[Tankskie-heartseeker]

Also dont forget a lot of retail players dont sub. They play for free with tokens (since WoD)

There are a lot of factors at play here. This is very selective information regarding the state of WoW.

Classic was a success but considering the active litigation against blizzard and the tanking stock, they need to present the optimal picture for shareholders.

[Tamandra-blaumeux]

I bet they’re kicking themselves for not releasing classic servers sooner!

“You think you do but you don’t”

[Illionus-area-52]

Really wish you people would do some research before saying paid transfer will never be a thing. To each his own though. I’d post a link about how if your saying blizzard said they would never come you’re full of it but I can’t.

[Notagin-kul-tiras (Notagin)]

I’m not interested in transferring. My toons are on a Big 3 realm for that reason.

I look at paid transfers as a safety valve for those stuck on servers that they don’t want to be on but still are interested in playing the game.

[Tln-herod]

Think about what “in franchise history” means. 1st Q 2005 to 2nd Q 2005 had growth of about 2 million subs according to that graphic for 2005-2013.

YUPPP! It’s nice to have some firm numbers, even if it’s just a lower bound.

And in case anyone is suggesting that it’s talking about percentage growth, remember that the first quarterly report would have infinite growth because it started with zero.

Here’s the report: https://investor.activision.com/financial-information/quarterly-results

From the powerpoint:

World of Warcraft®Classic added record number of subscription plans[1] in Q3
…
[1] Monthly or longer-term subscriptions.

Not a ratio. Raw subs. More raw subs than any other quarter in the history of WoW.

WOW.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

World of Warcraft® Classic drove the biggest quarterly increase to subscription plans in franchise history, in both the West and East.

…Hey, you know what that report is missing? Exact Numbers.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

They play for free with tokens (since WoD)

Define free if somebody has to pay 20 bucks for that token to exist for somebody to buy with gold to “play for free”.

[Notagin-kul-tiras (Notagin)]

Think about what “in franchise history” means. 1st Q 2005 to 2nd Q 2005 had growth of about 2 million subs according to that graphic for 2005-2013.

YUPPP! It’s nice to have some firm numbers, even if it’s just a lower bound.

And in case anyone is suggesting that it’s talking about percentage growth, remember that the first quarterly report would have infinite growth because it started with zero.

Here’s the report: https://investor.activision.com/financial-information/quarterly-results

From the powerpoint:

World of Warcraft®Classic added record number of subscription plans[1] in Q3
…
[1] Monthly or longer-term subscriptions.

Not a ratio. Raw subs. More raw subs than any other quarter in the history of WoW.

WOW.

Aww, be careful. A bozo got the ATVI thread moved from General to Off-topic. He must have lost money today or something.

[Tln-herod]

Blizzard/the entire player base warned everyone repeatedly that paid transfers would never be a thing.

Do you have a blizzard source that definitively states that there will be no paid server transfers?

Bear in mind that that would be a change. Blizzard started offering paid transfers in mid 2006. You couldn’t transfer from PvE to PvP, and there was a 6 month cooldown… but they existed in vanilla.

[Surrender-mankrik]

IF only they were more ambitious. Classic + would have netted them an even greater number of subscriptions, and ones that were willing to stick around as well.

[Veranarana-pagle]

Check back in Q4 or Q1, you’ll see there has been a massive drop off. You have to remember that they didn’t make money selling classic because everyone already owns it. They made money off monthly subs, which most classic players have already canceled.

The Nielsen reports have already said that they didn’t even make as much money off it all as they did when BfA launched.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

While I’m having a great time in classic, remember this.

The second highest sub jump in a quarter?

WoD launch