HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE L
At this point, just remove PvP server entirely and bring that garbage called war mode to classic already
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I really have no ideia how blizzard can be at 2 extremes at same time, the GOD TIER one with the 3 changes they made earlier ( dual spec, insta mail for account and the removal of buff/debuff limit ), and the most ridiculous one, nobody asked for this layer changes.
Specially when it limits people to play with their friends.
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Iâm losing interest in this âClassicâ launch with each blue post. âFreshâ is right, but more and more it ainât going to be Classic.
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This sounds great. Thatâs how we have crazy rivalry PVP.
I fully expect them to instance them like SoD and then keep calling them âworld bossesâ since theyâve been fine with changes so far. Not a fan of this at all and IMO itâs gross, just saying.
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And just to point it out
âThis system worked fantastically for keeping one faction from snowballing and has maintained a healthy balance throughout Season of DiscoveryâŚâ
Maybe because SoD is just terrible and thereâs like 200 people playing that ? Of course with 200 players itâll work fine.
Keep SoD on SoD, that was a TERRIBLE experiment with TERRIBLE systems.
Killing a Fresh Classic WPvP and put a wall to play with friends IS NOT A GOOD THING TO DO BLIZZARD, WAKE UP !
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All of the âworld pvpersâ and âgankersâ are crying right now.
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Please reconsider experimental changes on release!
The most important thing about wow classic is grouping with friends and the social aspect.
âwe are also going to heavily restrict players ability to âlayer hopâ on PvP realmsâ
If this impacts players ability to group this should be retracted! Please do not ruin our ability to group regularly!
Another issue is world buffs and layers and non-repeatable quests that initiate the world buff (ie Onyxia head quest).
Do world buffs drop on all layers? Because if not this would be very difficult to organize with layer balancing.
If you want to experiment think about making the world buff quests repeatable and not have cool-downs between drops. Also have them drop on all layers. This would provide a great Q.O.L. increase and doesnât mess with important aspects of the game like the ability to group with friends.
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Looks good thanks for trying so hard to improve experience of your game very excited to test this and all other new qol additions. Donât listen to the whine bags on here all they do is complain doesnât matter what you do
At least have some knowledge of what youâre talking about before you kiss the ring please.
This has a potential to literally kill the server.
@blizzard please respond to how this will function in the scenario of contesting world bosses, because not only do I see this ruining that, but also just run of the mill grouping anywhere
SOD players already had complaints about this very system.
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Shut up people abuse layers to farm black lotus or avoid PVP. It needs to stop
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No theyâre not itâs not going to affect ganker rogues at all. Itâs going to be even more targets for the solo rogue ganker.
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This, we need an answer. You know how many times some of us got stuck on layer 7 or 8 and had to switch layers multiple times just to find people.
Dead layers are a thing.
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Why? So streamers can ruin that one too?
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How am I suppose to track and hunt down specific Alliance players in the world of PvP if theyâre on a different layer?
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Just remove the âclassicâ annotation to whatever is going to launch on Thursday.
Slowly but surely changes are creeping in, just like what happened with original vanilla from 2004 to 2007 to 2009, etc etcâŚ
Why even call it âclassicâ? itâs not.
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Why are you still trolling on this forum after 5 years?
Original Era realms had phasing on layers even before Hardcore. This update isnât a change. This update is literally undoing one. They already mentioned you canât swap out to avoid PVP.
The only difference is now, you and your griefing squad will not be able to zerg a PVP objective in the open world with just sheer number and sappers alone, and actually forces you to engage in actual world pvp pressing your actual class buttons. You can also kiss sabotaging your same faction goodbye. (That was pretty scummy of the Horde side to actually sabotage their own faction that one time 2 horde raids and 2 alliance raids attended Azuregos and you clowns literally tried to throw your own faction under the bus). This update seems very promising in that it would PREVENT that and ensure that it is pure, fair, contested PVP for world bosses without any griefing.
Are you this over reliant on one shotting your foes that you canât handle a battle of attrition? Seems pretty weak to me. WCYD?
Can we get specifics on the layer rules please. How many times can you change layer before cd starts? How long are the cds?
How will this affect dungeon groups. What if the group i just joined on another layer falls apart and i need to layer again for the new group. This sounds messy af lol.
Layer hoping was great to avoid corpse camping griefers now what the options? Play an alt? Will the alt be bound to the same layer cd? Will corpse camping be reportable?
Iâm thinking going pve now to play it safe, let others pilot this change lol.
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Asking questions = trolling
We havenât experienced that yet, from what I gather the sod community hated the way it works. If itâs just extremely hard to swap layers thatâs cool, but how does this âlayer balanceâ work on a zone with 600 people at the world boss? This isnât 2019 era with 2-3 layers, this server will be max layers bursting at the seams.
If you think âjust pressing wrsth and moonfireâ is going to land you a world boss kill Iâve got news for you. I doubt you took part in any of these in original classic as your lack of knowledge shows.
Why are you just assuming I want to âone shotâ my teammates? I am playing to kill your guild not mine
My concerns are me not being able to phase over my guild or me phasing TO my guild, because of some default automated layer balancer. The variables are infinite and Iâd like clarity on how that works
Making it harder to layer is a good thing. Automated layer balancing is prone to all sorts of chaotic variables. Not even concerning world bosses, but anything
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No interest in SoD, but this is a great change for the game regardless. Props where they are due.
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If it works, it works. Donât complain about something or troll on a forum if it works.
You have âgatheredâ a lot of things since 2019, and most of them seem to be far from what is true.
See what I mean about that 1 button macro mentality? What is it with you horde shamans. You guys canât live without elemental mastery? Hereâs a tip - why donât you try playing enhancement pvp for a change? That might actually make you a good pvper. And I am only saying âmightâ because zug zugs the norm for people who roll horde just for OP pvp racials.
It is written all over your racials, your class, your guild tag, and your forum response. You literally just answered my question with that response of yours. To put it in a more confrontational straightforward way, you might as well say :