yah im pretty sure he has always been about a sub + box cost i some form.
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yah im pretty sure he has always been about a sub + box cost i some form.
Many of retail players:
Offend all people who ask for classic servers;
âNostalgia glassesâ, âwall of noâ, â(insert any stupid analogy)â
Jerks for years;
They get classic for free that fought against many years.
People say to us stay happy.
You can only be drunk.
When the truth is âEEEWWWWWW RETAIL COOTIES!â
Itâs also more irrational and immature.
Many of retail players:
Offend all people who ask for classic servers;
âNostalgia glassesâ, âwall of noâ, â(insert any stupid analogy)â
Jerks for years;They get classic for free that fought against many years.
People say to us stay happy.
You can only be drunk.
Many? based on the forum population? nah
Do you seriously consider âa content droughtâ synonymous with âwhat you acknowledge to be a minority of Classicâs playerbase by any definition want something wackyâ?
Letâs answer a question with a question: Is Classic a relaunch of Vanilla? Or is it the homage to the original game?
Are there people who just want Vanilla to have been unchanged since 1.12 for the last ten years? Or do they want to relive the experience of playing an MMO as it was new?
The big problem is that the people on these forums think the game is just for them, and that no new people will ever explore Classic.
âOh, but you just want to give everyone a participation trophy!â Hey, I experienced Vanilla, itâs everyone here who desperately wants Classic to be a specific point during Vanillaâs lifetime. Those people want no BGs, these people want progression servers, etc.
If you need proofs:
You donât are the first that donât trust on this:
Credits for Silhat:
Donât have anything against you, but Iâm bored and I canât get to sleep, so here you go:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8728423216#post-17
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20351045345#post-12
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/16717381613#post-5
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20742474845#post-14
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17085118606#post-5
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20043025628?page=2#post-28
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18300225257#post-6
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/12675388949#post-15
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17605023952#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/3988399963?page=3#post-42
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9793020424?page=4#post-61
I said to myself I would stop as soon as I saw one posted by Ziryus, and it took 8 pages for that to happen. Whew.
EDIT: Still canât get to sleep, have a few more:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20742634500?page=9#post-170
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20742925989?page=3#post-47
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9499940729#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9573549130#post-8
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7895179607#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9792719537#post-5 *
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9972287938#post-2
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9280508132#post-4
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8729063411#post-4
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17347096665#post-10
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/14729493186#post-4
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8796660481#post-6
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/11582928211#post-6
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18300220528#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/12926712739?page=2#post-23
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8796090986#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9499901546?page=10#post-194
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9309261602?page=3#post-52
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/16283658634#post-17
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18300224899#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8691019077#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759317867#post-15
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9972177549#post-5
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/16202690690?page=2#post-23
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8568399926#post-6
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9628133226#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8402910241#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9499811320?page=4#post-61
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7924374057#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17564776792#post-15
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7979508978#post-5
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9679038052#post-4
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8770357030#post-13
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747786375#post-11
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9475257432#post-9
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/14058656793#post-16
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18194754503#post-19
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/19864696318#post-8
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8198642524#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/16858256436#post-12
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9377319728#post-10
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18300091337#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18300089856?page=2#post-23
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17345765471?page=2#post-25
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7924143833#post-2
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18300414829#post-6
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/10038734014#post-13
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8704280849#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/19072677700#post-4
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17347396176#post-15
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17999421433#post-18
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20042885101?page=2#post-37
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8087088801#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8728184059#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/12329133153?page=2#post-22
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8728253735#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20744924542?page=4#post-76
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7200059972#post-8
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/13438223707#post-8
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9572597258#post-13
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/10490859179#post-9
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/11915341934#post-8
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/7979899321#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17085898722#post-8
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18300113790#post-13
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8198640337#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/10896220138#post-9
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/19287959283#post-16
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9165877230#post-3
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17999968103#post-9
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17605674546#post-9
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/10950835119#post-17
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8874927583#post-2
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18000060722#post-12
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17084068842#post-4
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20742954698#post-6
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/13979298010#post-9
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17907391550#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/13482278198?page=2#post-35
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/19136254568#post-7
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20742876041?page=12#post-227
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/12163546405#post-4
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/8796350073#post-5
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/16858196357#post-6
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/11222562775#post-11
Can I have your gold?
Now your time, can you prove otherwise?
Still doesnât represent the entire retail player base. For all we know everyone of those posts were made by 5 guys and their army of alts.
Nor does any of that warrant blind hate for every player who plays retail.
No matter how bad some forum trolls hurt our feels.
You seem to have a habit of making weird assertions, and not trying to back them up with logic, instead either repeating them or writing walls of largely unrelated text when challenged.
How about you answer a question with an answer?
Are you equating âa few people want cyclical serversâ with content droughts? Itâs a very simple question. Yes? Or no?
If you need proofs:
You donât are the first that donât trust on this:
Huh? I tell you that it was not âmanyâ just a small minority of people who post on the forums, where to begin with a very minority post at all.
Lol all you did was prove what I was telling you,
Now your time, can you prove otherwise?
You just proved what I said for me, so thanks? Iâll even put it simply again, a small minority of people post on the forums , so if it just meant that âmanyâ and was only talking about the forums, then, yah that would be more accurate, but not when talking about the entire current retail population.
Still doesnât represent the entire retail player base. For all we know everyone of those posts were made by 5 guys and their army of alts.
Nor does any of that warrant blind hate for every player who plays retail.
No matter how bad some forum trolls hurt our feels.
also, what he said.
Are you equating âa few people want cyclical serversâ with content droughts? Itâs a very simple question. Yes? Or no?
Yes. Especially for this particular execution of Legacy WoW.
If you want to know the reason why, the answer is âContent Buckets.â Eventually, this bucket is going to run out.
Now, you answer this: Are you saying that Classic wonât run out of content?
You seem to have a habit of making weird assertions, and not trying to back them up with logic, instead either repeating them or writing walls of largely unrelated text when challenged.
If you have an issue with wanting to involve every angle, then feel free to challenge âlogicâ with whatever argument you might have.
Okay, OP aside, because well if he doesnât want to pay a sub there are plenty of F2P MMOs for him to play. Most people who want a Classic only option are more then willing to pay a sub for it.
You know who the rest of you remind of? The Anti-Classic wall of no. Youâre all diametrically opposed to an option to sub to only Classic because Blizzardâs official stated position is 1 sub for both. You know what else Blizzardâs stated position was at one time? No Classic WoW. Yet people kept asking for it an here we are.
I have an issue with asserting nonsense. You can pretend that âducks are reptiles,â supported by, âwell, you see, narwhals have hornsâ is âinvolving every angleâ if you want, but donât expect me to join you there.
Where did I give the impression I thought there would not be a sub fee?
Never did however you seem to have the belief the subs would not be combined even after blizzard has given every indication for over a year they would be
Other then at Blizzcon less than a month ago when has Blizzard given any indication about the cost for Classic?
As soon as the classic forum first opened the sticky said they were going to be offwring a âclassic server optionâ.
They would not have included the word âoptionâ if they were going to go with independant servers and subscriptions
I have an issue with asserting nonsense. You can pretend that âducks are reptiles,â supported by, âwell, you see, narwhals have hornsâ is âinvolving every angleâ if you want, but donât expect me to join you there.
I donât expect anything of you, except for you, and everyone else to do what they think is best for them. Thatâs the wonder of a community - there are going to be a lot of different opinions. They arenât a hive mind.
Gnocci and others are upset because of the Wall of No. Project 60 and the Streamers they follow are going to be doing whatever it is that they do.
You have an issue with people seeing the big picture or seeing what Blizzard sees.
However, this is why I saw Blizzard lumping the subs together. I have proof of why Blizzard thinks this way. Itâs part of their game design philosophy - inclusion, rather than exclusion.
You donât have to agree, and Iâll defend your right to think that way, but I also will tell you why itâs not the way you want it to be.
Youâre interpreting things how you want them with no actual basis to back them up. In this case the word âoptionâ means you will be able to play Classic or Modern WoW. It has nothing to do with the sub price, but youâre making that leap to try to make your case stronger.
You have an issue with people seeing the big picture or seeing what Blizzard sees.I gather it would be far more comfortable for you if that was what I had an issue with, but you can't really expect anyone to engage with you on your solipsistic terms.
Have fun continuing to assert nonsense.