Okay well that’s fair. But lets look at that statement. This isn’t a sale is it? This was their starting position. They didn’t say Classic would be $15 on it’s own and $15 for modern wow. No they started with $15 for both of them. You can say one is free, but it’s not. They’re just reducing the sub cost of modern wow.
I didnt say forced. I said nudged.
It’s a marketing trick that really depends on how you want to see it.
If you can normally buy something for $15 and they’re offering 2 for $15, you can see that as getting 1 free or getting both for 50% off.
Though I prefer looking at it as getting both for 50% off, because the term free implies that I’m not paying for it when I very clearly am paying $15 for it.
Though I think that using sales is a faulty way of looking at it in the first place, because this is a subscription and not a sale.
When Netflix adds new movies, I don’t hear people talking about how they got them for free.
And have been reducing that cost for 14 years. $15 sub isn’t even taking account into inflation, or the numbers of freebies being given out over the years.
There’s no more box cost, there’s no additional cost for expansions up to Legion. Classic is getting the option of playing an updated 1.x version, alongside the current retail version of the game.
They’re not reducing the cost of anything. The price remains exactly the same. You get the same product for the same money, but now with the addition of a free add-on alongside it.
I already presented it the way it basically is: Classic WoW and Modern WoW have the exact same subscription cost. You pay $15 for access to one, which includes access to the other. You’re not paying $7.50 for each, you’re paying $15 for both.
Why would you want to pay $15 for Classic by itself? If you want to “protest” modern WoW, all you have to do is not play it. A Blue post from earlier has already pointed out that Blizzard will know which servers you use. If you only play classic and never touch modern, that will reflect in their user data.
Fighting so hard to “only pay for Classic” just doesn’t make sense, given that you can play exclusively Classic and Blizzard will know it. There would be no benefit to anybody in this scenario if you paid $15 without access to modern servers.
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Exactly! Agreed, Sorry I’m out of love according to the forums but i still liked your post.
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Take an Aleve. Put down your phone.
If blizzard suddenly decided to charge an access fee for classic, I bet you would be the last one to have the opinion of “pay if you want to play, don’t if you dont”.
I feel the same way as he does, and I can assure you that my philosophy wouldn’t shift.
If Classic had an extra cost, I most likely wouldn’t pay it. And that’d be okay, because it’s my choice to save money instead of adding costs. I’m not in the habit of guilting people over not spending money on entertainment products.
I just think it’s silly that so many people are pushing for a cheaper Classic-only subscription, thereby devaluing the hard work put in by the team to bring it back to life.
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Bull, admit it. You both would be melting down about an unfair paywall and that blizzard doesnt want inclusiveness. Your perspective as a current active sub getting something for free is an entirely different viewpoint as those forced to pay for the bundle to get the 14 year old static content.
Nibody is devaluing the work, but trying to get across that the work going into classic is not remotely equitable to that which goes into constant development of current live.
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First, you’re not being forced. Second, it’s not “a bundle,” it’s a subscription fee for monthly access. Third, you’re angry (and that’s alright), but you shouldn’t assume that everybody would be angry in your position.
Maybe I do actually have a leg to stand on as a current subscriber, yeah? I’ve been supporting this game since launch. I played vanilla, BC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD, Legion, and BfA, and I paid my subscription fee the entire time.
In a sense, I’m partly responsible for funding the existence of Classic in the first place. If I were to take a position of entitlement (I wouldn’t, but hypothetically) I might actually have a point.
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Fiddy cents a day for unlimited access to both retail and classic. Im failing to see the problem here? If i offered the service my buisness offers for free i would have been bankrupt day 1. Nothing is free it even costs a small fortune to die.
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Seems like a good deal to me if it’s what it’s supposed to be.
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Yeah it’s a great deal, if you like/don’t mind modern wow. For people who don’t like it, not so much.
Kidding, right?
Pservers are good too if you don’t want to sub. Not even saying that out of spite or dickishness.
IMHO anyway.
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It has nothing to do with the work - it has everything to do with the bottom line.
Blizzard cannot afford to offer Classic at a lower, separate cost. They will ultimately lose out. Many players would move to Classic if they knew they could be paying less, and others might even see it as Blizzard abandoning Retail and just quit outright. How do we know? People are always asking for a lower cost, for WoW to go free to play, etc. etc. etc. Always.
Set any number you’d have Classic reduced. We’ll make Classic 10 to Retail’s 15. You lose 1000 players to Retail, that’s 5,000 a month of income you have to make back. 100,000 Retail players move to Classic, that’s Half a million a month that has to be recouped. More? Far more players have to sub to Classic to make up for the loss in income.
The business model Blizzard is in is the balance between giving everyone what they want. A single price, everyone has access to everything, and they can choose, and Blizzard won’t ever compete with itself.
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Where did that poster say they didnt want to pay a sub?
Blizzard already stated classic will be produced and managed by a seperate team than retail is. Also lets not forget Blizzard has not increased the cost of the sub fee for 14 years. When taking inflation into account from 2004 to 2018 that is something to be thankfull for. Besides if you truly love classic you will pay the $15 or not play, for all those people who only want classic and have not subbed in years your missing monthly payment would not affect classic anyways as it is essentially free anyways.
Right so they’re a buy to play person I’m assuming? Dunno, haven’t read the entire thread.
I can see the argument for B2P and I’d like it to be that way because it’s cheaper. But you’re just not going to get that. WoW was $15/mo back then. I’m not sure I understand the argument for a reduced sub if that’s what was missed. $15 today is less than back then. And they also allow those who still want to maintain a retail account to do so without added cost…?
Again, all this is predicated on the assumption that they deliver. If they don’t, no, $15/mo is not worth it IMO and I will walk as will many, as I’m not interested in BfA. The product will speak for itself.
It’s plain and simple, anyone that played Vanilla have already bought the game, the sub has always been there and that hasn’t changed. All these other x-pacs that you have bought up to Modern “BFA” all still required the same sub cost. I for one support the sub cost for Classic even though I will only be playing Classic, because the game will continue to evolve either it be in Classic “Which I hope, but doubt!” or in future content for Modern WoW. Blizzard has given us something that a lot of us have been wanting for a long time and requiring a current sub to be able to play it is completely fare in my eyes.
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