Wow and Free Speech and forum Censorship

Sounds GREAT to me, the less of the endless vitriolic bile you people can spew everywhere the better

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I seldom post here but felt compelled to post a reply on this. The issue here is that your belief of what “free speech” is supposed to be is a complete fallacy. The only reason free speech exists in the Constitution is to keep a tyrannical government from silencing its citizens. Free speech is not a law that protects you to shoot your mouth off, say what you want, then hide behind the law once someone enters into conflict with you over what you said.

When I read most posts like yours that is the intention of the poster. To make someone mad, then use free speech for protection. That is not how free speech works even at the federal level against the government. You cannot march into the middle of a session of Congress and confront someone. You are not protected from consequences for what you say and do.

Welcome to life 101. Say the wrong thing and you may possibly have to pick yourself off the ground or find yourself alienated by a group of people. Those are the consequences for saying certain types of things at the wrong place and/or at the wrong time. Does it mean that reaction is justified? Not necessarily, but you cannot claim free speech as the reason you should get protection from it.

It really concerns me that so many people have such little understanding of what free speech actually is and what it actually means. It is obvious a group of individuals have been wrongfully raised to believe anything that comes out of their mouths is okay, which should never be the case. We need to move forward as a society not backward.

I want to leave you with this. I am not condemning you by any of what I posted. I do not know you personally. I am only stating what I have witnessed over the last several years when interacting with people in favor of their version of “free speech”. I did not want you to think I was judging you personally with anything I typed. I also thought your post was posted in good taste whether I agree with your take or not. There is never a reason to be rude to someone you do not know before you try to understand them.

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Actually no, it’s to protect your right to criticize your government, that’s it.

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Americans and not knowing the difference between Freedom of Speech and Freedom from consequences.

Name a more iconic duo.

You people are so badly educated, it’ sad :frowning:

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Now that I know I have a mute thread option – I don’t care what Blizzard does.
I can moderate it for myself now.

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Greatest fallacy in history.
Thats the crutch for every single dictator.
“You can say whatever you want, but if you say something I don’t like, you’ll suffer the consequences.”

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Actually threatened violence. Not the leftist version, where someone says “I disagree”

Btw, how long did Parlor last, and who shut them down? Apple and Google at the behest of the government when it looked like Parlor was going to be on its wag to supplanting twitter. At the behest of the DNC. Even though the laughable January 6th event was organized on Facebook. Using companies to enact things that are against the law for the gov is a feature of Fascism, the real kind not the made up lefty kind.

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That snippet out of the Federalist Papers is. Congrats. But I did say “half of it,” yeah? And I stand by my statement.

Sadly and unfortunately, the parts that cause us to hate and kill each other fall into the badly-written and poorly-thought-out half. Virtually no one fights over the parts that are well-written.

Tell me how this is up to even eighth-grade standards, though:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Someone needed junior high grammar lessons. Shoot, even “A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. Therefore, the right of the people…”

Nah? They thought the preceding was better?

Cretins. Tax-dodging, slave-owning cretins.

I grew up here in this country, listened to everything everyone had to say, paid attention in history class, watched everyone worship these fools like they were some kind of gods, watched people murder “in the name of” and watched people lose their own lives for both the sensical and nonsensical ideals they had.

After all that, I think it would have been far better if we had lost the Revolutionary War. This country is two countries unwillingly smashed into one. (Note how every poll you see is 54% to 46%, or 51% to 49%… never 93% to 7%. We agree on nothing, split almost right down the middle.) And there’s nothing at all wrong with the UK. Australia is nice, Canada is nice. Us being like them would be a vast improvement.

So, nah. I don’t do religion and I don’t put these people who have been long dead and gone on some kind of pedestal. Nothing they experienced in their entire lives could prepare them for how life would be 250 years in the future.

But we still live by their rules. And we still hate, fight and kill in their names.

Nope. Not me. Not for any ancient document, and certainly not for ancient people that possessed questionable intelligence and a very narrow scope of vision.

(“Hey, John. Tom, come listen to me. What happens when ‘the people’ start shooting each-other with the arms? Because peace will come, and in the absence of war, social problems will arise.”)

Nah, never thought to ask that, did they?

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it’s almost as if written and spoken language were different hundreds of years ago.

…but in context, the original makes more sense than your version.

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/shakes head

So we’re going to bring this here, now?

I completely disagree. My full point is on display above.

By the by, the reason I spoke up in CS is because I had seen you write virtually the same thing about Bartender perhaps three or four times. That you could finally ditch that addon because of the new UI and why is everyone obsessed with Bartender.

So on the fourth time, I called it out.

So what word exactly are you trying to say without getting banned ?

Examples:

Enough, yeah? We know you dislike Bartender.

It does let you resize the micro menu though.

not sure why.

it’s not worthy of calling out.

…and now you’re derailing a thread for no reason.

stock UI does pretty much everything bartender does… people just aren’t familiar with how versatile it is, because they haven’t taken the time to explore it properly.

but thanks for reminding me that i was meant to post an update.
the stock UI does do what the person was asking about.

calm your farm.
i don’t dislike it.
i used it for years.
i don’t need to use it anymore.
…i can finally get rid of it, and people start telling me to use it?

nah.
i’m good.
my opinion is fine.
not sure why you’re so bothered about people not needing it any more.

yes, i’m aware of that.
like i said, i used it for years.
the UI changes haven’t been fully completed yet, so the micromenu will likely become modifiable in a future patch.

You have no “free speech” rights on a private forum. You know this yeah?

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It’s OK, Nobully. You can have the last word.

Have a good one.

I oppose all imposed censorship everywhere. That being said I understand Blizzard censoring things, due to the nature of selling a product, and wanting to make that product desirable, while acknowledging your points; it’s a bit silly, frankly that’s how it always seems; silly. But this is the world we live in. I appreciate that your challenging it but I don’t expect it to change.

I was just thinking how offended parents would get if people were welcome to use any sort of language around their precious snot goblins.
…at first I thought it’s not fair to the kids to have to hear that.

and then i thought… OMG ALL THE KIDS STAY HOME!!!
adults can adult in an adult world.

All? Even for things that are grossly inappropriate or illegal?

Think of the worst thing you can think of on this Earth and then imagine that a major social media outlet decided that they were going to allow users to graphically promote this thing.

I think not all. I think the world would be a much worse place if the “kidnap a kid” challenge on Tik-Tok couldn’t be censored.

And when discussing censorship you really need to have scope of vision. “All the things” can and will be tried. No, the fictitious challenge I mentioned above doesn’t exist, but if there were no limits and no censorship, it clearly would.

I don’t think you understand how it works, your an idiot and full of woke ideology.

Oh, the irony.

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