not entirely true, I’ve been revoked my forum posting privileges before simply due to a complaint about a specific person that was put into the game that has said some hateful things about the people I identify with. I shall not say the name as I rather not revisit the revoked privileges. But not all times is being muted a fair thing. It’s fair to say sometimes the choice is done simply from the moderators own belief systems.
I’ll take your word to it but by your own admission it seems to be an exception rather than a rule, and we do not know by what belief system they predicate on allegedly. We also have no idea how this interaction took place. All things considered I do not think you’d disagree that while some personal bias can occur inevitably there’s an objective metric in place that offers a fair due process for most cases.
You seem to have missed the entire point of Freedom of Speech. The primary intent was not to allow you to say whatever you want whenever you want (though it does do that, with some specific exceptions established by the Supreme Court), it was to prevent politicians from having people arrested or even executed for criticizing the government.
The people who wrote the Constitution were very concerned about a future President becoming an oppressive tyrant like they perceived King George III to have been, and many of our initial rights were designed to prevent that.
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I think the vagueness of the rulesets leave too much room for a moderators own interpretation which makes a truely fair and just system impossible. I do think for the most part they attempt a level of fairness but it’s not possible due to how the ruleset is made. Simply put a rule against trolling for example, has very little definition to it so anything could be labeled as trolling. Lets not forget moderators are people like us, and can just as easily consider something trolling because they disagree with it just as we do.
People can say whatever they want to say without harm, but still have the consequences happen for what they say. You can still say whatever the F you want.
I would say it’s by design as there’s no realistic expectations for consumers to read, much less follow comprehensive and detailed rules akin to law. I am however confident that a much more objective evaluation criteria is applied by the moderation team.
I think that can be expressed as “cannot”, unless it can only refer to literally unable to utter certain phrases by magic.
I agree its done by design simply so it gives them more wiggle room when they really need to. However personal experience leads me to believe there really isn’t much in the way of an objective evaluation to be applied to some subjects. Aside from how many people decided to flag the topic. Which should never be a metric used to determine such things.
These ldiots don’t understand what they’re dragging us all in to.
Yeah yeah, right-wing conservative propaganda, good for you, enjoy the kool-aid, etc etc. You folks still need to learn what free speech actually means before bringing it up. This is complete and utter nonsense.
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The Supreme Court has established several specific things that are not protected by Freedom of Speech. For example, you can not incite a panic by yelling “Fire!” in a crowded place when there is no fire and can be arrested and charged for doing so.
Remember what happened when Elongated Muskrat tried to remove content moderation from Twitter?
If they are highly controversial topics, I agree, but it is also the prerogative of a corporate entity or its agents to act out in any manner they see fit within their private intellectual property, which can be justified by either personal or financial reasons. I disagree that public opinion isn’t an objective metric given that they are the consumers of their product.
Yes that was my point
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free speech is overrated in my opinion anyways. I always thought it was silly a person can sit there and antagonize you, and if you give in your the one thats in trouble with the law yet they get away with nothing against them. Verbal assault should be just as punishable imho. It’s simply a broken system that can be easily abused by people. Something I learned with my time in job corps. Where any physical contact equaled a instant kick from the system, people was doing everything they could to get people they didnt like to throw a punch. It’s messed up.
Yep.
and in this realm…this is a private entity deciding what they want on their servers. that is their right.
those not liking it can…go make a wow forum on their own hosted server. their time, their dime, their rules.
and then will see probably why rules are in place. Even my no-ban musk had to suspend this weekend.
want to know what has people limite speech on their media? See Kanye.
some people would keep use of words to civil level in some way. then you ye putting out some wth crap.
and this is why stuff gets stifled. you ned this at lower levels. several people can be cool abot this. then one knucklehead ahs to take the nuclear option.
those not seeing that…go fire up a wordpress site with forums or something. this debates takes on whole new perspectives. when you are dealing with the headaches.
It was said on your forum. some won’t hear well I didnt say it, poster x did. its your forums…
and this is why places control them. run own site and live the free speech dream.
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there’s laws in certain states that protect people from this.
Trouble is how easily abused it is. Specifically by people who have some form of platform to spread their voice. Large discord servers, streamers, ect. It’s creates a rather opressive environment where expressing your own dismay may lead you to being silenced without just cause. This is granted the most extreme case and only happened to me once in the time I mentioned before. However the flaw itself is why such system where popular opinion shouldn’t be a reason for action.
As he ironically spews his own form of hate…
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Thats the problem with modern society, it seems most people have shifted to an all or nothing point of view. There is no room for compromise from anyone. I don’t speak just political either the same divisions are here in WoW when it comes to raiders, and non raiders, casuals vs elites, and so on. Everyone wants it their way and no give for any other way of life. It’s creating an immense amount of tension to the point where it’s easy to feel it in the air.
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