Wow and Free Speech and forum Censorship

oh grow up

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I would appreciate it if people would stop quoting me out of context. And then saying the same thing I stated.

Here’s my original post for all to read:

"Blizzard has imposed rules against using certain types of language. We take that for granted. Most players are aware of this. Blizzard also punishes violations to it’s rules.

But why? Take into account that most players are late teens and adults. Parents can set up profanity filters and so can individuals. One player can mute another player so they don’t read what that player types. So If parents can protect their kids who play Wow. And the rest are adults. Why the censorship. Specially in the forums? Who does Blizzard think they are protecting?

Why not let people say whatever they want to say. Let people express themselves. If other people don’t like what is said. Just don’t continue reading that post.

The United States constitution guarantees freedom of expression. It guarantees freedom from censorship by government agencies. Unfortunately it does not cover private entities.

So any private company can censor speech. But I think this is a mistake. In essence, what has happened is private companies think that they can act as censors effectively negating the constitution. I would think that the constitution’s freedom of speech would supersede Blizzard policies at least in spirit if not by direct law."

You brought up the First Ammendment and it in no way applies to anything a business does. You can think it’s wrong all you want but its not. It’s absolutely the opposite. The govt is not here to hand hold you through life, forcing others to bend to your wants and needs simply because you don’t like something. Yours is not the only opinion.

Gee I wonder why anyone would do this?
LOL

And has no bearing here, even though I am from Australia even I know that it does not cover forums etc lol.
I think maybe you need to do some more study into what you are trying to say.

I mean its not even just a US platform its worldwide so there’s that as well.

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That is my opinion you are free to like it or not like it.

You’ve yet to make a compelling argument on why a private business should be forced to platform you.

You’re straight up saying you should be able to violate their rights.

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I posed a question. Make of it what you will. Instead of projecting onto me. Why not just give your opinion to the topic and be done with it.

Blizzard’s house and rules. They don’t need to provide an explanation just like how I don’t need to provide an explanation to people to take their shoes off when I invite them into my home.

I’m sure the OP would be very ok with his house being open to anyone being able to come in and say whatever they want.

Freeze peach and all that.

Not a private persons house. The forum is a public place, a Forum. Where millions of people pay a subscription to participate.

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Not a private persons house. The forum is a public place, a Forum. Where millions of people pay a subscription to participate.

Uh, it isn’t a public space when you have to pay $15 a month to post on it.

Even then it doesn’t belong to the public, it belongs to Blizzard.

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A theater is a public space you pay to participate in, A football stadium is a public place you pay to participate in. Etc, etc.

You pay to participate in as long as you follow the rules.

Theatres can also remove you for being disruptive. Are you suggesting if someone buys a movie ticket, they should be able to talk loudly throughout the entire movie?

It’s pretty clear you haven’t thought this through and think you deserve special privileges for posting on Blizzard’s forums.

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All of which have the right to remove you if you become a nuisance in any manner, physically or verbally.

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What! You two trying to double team me? lol.

Why not let people say whatever they want to say. Let people express themselves. If other people don’t like what is said. Just don’t continue reading that post.

My instinct when I see someone saying offensive/hateful things is to protect the community by removing the problematic individual – not putting the onus on each person to be exposed to the diatribes of that person and need to all block them individually.

For example, if you had someone in the community who had a history of posting racist comments, you could say “every member of that race that comes across that person’s posts should block them”, but I’d rather their hate just be snuffed out, like picking a weed out of a garden, instead of encouraging people to just not look at the weed and pretend like it’s not there.

Same with verbal harassment – you could say, if someone get harassed, then they should just block the harassing individual and move on. But since the harasser didn’t get reprimanded for their behavior, then what is to stop them from harassing others?

To have a garden, you have to pick the weeds. You may not like what gets to be planted, but if you get rid of the gardener, then eventually it gets overrun and ceases to be.

A theater is private property.

As is a football stadium.

In the vast majority of cases, if a government entity does not own a space, but it is nonetheless owned, you can assume it to be private property. There are exceptions, but they don’t apply here.

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Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences of said speech.

You CAN say whatever the heck you want here. But you run the risk of the banhammer if Blizzard, which OWNS these forums, decides it was objectionable.

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A business is a private entity and if it operates providing services to the public. It is a business open to the public and involving the public. Although a theater is owned privately it is a public place, where the public is directly involved. And for this you need insurance that covers not only the physical property but also the public customers which partake of your services. At this point we are just quibbling over semantics. But thank you for reply.

Being open to the public is very different from public property, and your rights do change on private property.

You’re right that they need insurance, and that they deal with the public, but you would be entirely incorrect if you think they can’t remove you from the premises at their discretion, with the assistance of police if need be.

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