Remove my Armory Link from this thread OP.
Sure. Big twinking announcement out of nowhere forced them to roll back the change. Suddenly out of nowhere the bg forum is filled with anti-twinking threads, claiming that all the hate talk you guys are spewing at twinks is only meant for their own good, not for your personal benefit or anything.
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Done. We all know you’re a twink anyway, so the point upholds.
Wow… hey, it’s almost like… all those people are facing actual negative consequences of the change. This appealing to conspiracy twink supporters do would be hilarious if it didn’t give me the strangest sense of deja vu. But I don’t remember seeing Tauren fur in Cheetoh before…
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This is largely caused from player issues.
A mage may show up here soon.
Are you considering characters with just 3-4 blue heirloom pieces to be “twinks” because to be honest I don’t even have a full set of heirlooms on my lvl 20 warrior and I do just fine I’m bgs and would be in top 3 usually in the 1-19 bracket. It really isn’t that bad at all
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I’m referring to what happened above. Same group, queueing constantly, every bracket was the same. Happened more than one day. Two-shotting my character with instant casts just as a Balance Druid. Trinket effects also deleting more than half my health. Edit: One of said trinkets are known to be an issue and Blizz is correcting it. Forgot to add.
Will check back in later, I need to sleep. And I see someone typing up a novel that I probably won’t get to see for many hours, but I’m looking forward to it.
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You knew this 8 hrs ago and yet.
Good job removing my armory from this thread, there was no need for that.
So, you put gear in all your slots and enchanted some of it. If you can do it, so can everyone else right? And, actually your stat layout isn’t far off from that of a BiS player’s. It’s pretty close, and without too much effort huh.
Simply put, It’s not needed. Because queue times would skyrocket and it would kill the awesome community that has sprang up around low level PvP again. We need to be integrated with levelers to get queues. It’s about community, not beating up levelers.
No one feels good when they two shot someone that’s got gear in half their slots. And let’s be clear, that’s the only folks getting two shotted; if you’ve simply got gear in all slots you’re not getting two shotted at all. I know that cuts against common misconception though. I have people on my team all the time with 500hp at level 19. Them dying repeatedly has nothing to do with “twinks.”
Because of item level scaling. There’s much less of a power gap, between someone who has a hodge podge assortment of gear every slot and someone who’s collected BiS for the bracket. There are some trinkets that are punching well above their weight. But they should be addressed specifically.
You aren’t being killed in two globals. If you are I’d like to see a screenshot of your character wearing the gear in your armory and the deathnote from details or some other damage meter. Otherwise, it’s a baseless claim. Unless it was by one of the OP trinkets that’s being adjusted in the patch. Ramstein is outside of the powercurve currently.
That’s not a win for everyone. That destroys our community, because of queue times. And I like my friends.
Ramstein is being nerfed I believe, and It sounds like your problem is more about premades and less about “twinks.”
That’s called a distinction without a difference. Separating the brackets will in fact kill the low level PvP community.
The problem I’ve seen with every argument made against "twinks in this thread and the other few threads is, that the same arguments can be used against high geared players doing max level PvP. Most of the arguments boil down to “we want to PvP, but we shouldn’t have to gear for it.”
PvP is competitive, you should have to gear for it, and gear should matter in an MMO. So, if you want to PvP. At least stick something in every slot, it’s not much to ask.
The only difference between low level PvP and max level PvP, is the propensity for leveling players to completely neglect as much as half (or more) of their gear slots. I see it in every battleground. So when a player with every slot filled targets them and mashes buttons, they go poof because of how the game calculates the difference in item level.
Look at it like this: the highest item levels at 19 are around 25-30. If you’re missing half your slots. You’re item level is going to be half that. The game think you’re literally half the relative power (because you are) as someone with gear in all slots. Yeah, you’re getting “deleted (because you should).”
The difference isn’t felt like this at max because you come in around 300 (gear in every slot) and get hit by someone at 385 and don’t get two shotted because the game sees you as someone who’s only about 25% weaker.
Less QQ, more pew pew.
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Oh, that won’t happen. Even during separation, they still said queues were popping and going strong. No worries!
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That’s called a distinction without a difference. Separating the brackets will in fact kill the low level PvP community.[/quote]
It didn’t before. It didnt’ when the brackets were divided into halves: 10-14, 15-19, etc.
It may kill the twinking community, but only if twinks don’t step up to the plate.
And if you want competitive PvP , Rated is waiting for you. Even Blizzard has said this about unranked pvp.
Your post only proves you want to compete, but without competition. Amusing.
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Randoms are a step to rateds. Why have you done nothing rated but are honor level 200 something?
Is this a max level twink? You refuse to progress to the competitive side of PvP, so you’re camping where the random guys with no gear go to gear up.
Here I thought that endgame pvp was more balanced and not dominated by the fotm specs using busted items. Not to mention the larger toolkit which can be used to overcome disadvantages - not just flop over dead if targeted by a fotm spec.
The community for twinking is large and getting larger since BFA endgame content sucks - so why not challenge eachother to wargames instead of facerolling pugs who have no chance?
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rofl max lvl is definitely not balanced I read both arena and bg forums and their is nerf x threads daily and certain >specs< are a complete joke and useless atm
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Alot more balanced than lowbie pvp which has a limited toolkit.
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Indeed, Wargames happen all the time.
The organization is not always as easy as just a quick queue with some friends, whenever we get a chance to play together.
Clutch harder at those pearls.
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You can be whatever you want to be, it is ok.
Enjoy BFA.
Therein lies the problem. With the new communities feature twinks are able to group much easier than ever, ie forming a premade. To expect a pug group of lvlers to overcome a twink group is just naive. So unless the stars align and twink team A comes up against twink team B on the opposing faction its a faceroll win.
Especially if the twink group has fotm specs - it normally does. ![:weary:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/weary.png?v=6" ":weary:")
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I am. ![:smiley:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/smiley.png?v=6" ":smiley:")
But, please, keep proving that all the bombast and bravado and “just deal with it lul” falls apart as soon you get put on under the microscope.
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Communities are for everyone, some are cliques which will only invite players on the same tier.
Largely they are friendly and very welcoming to players looking to share similar interests.
An awesome feature which we all should be making great use of.
Togetherness!
Sounds like you are trying to single me out.
Is there a personal issue we can discuss over some respectful dialogue?