Would this be allowed?

So, I’m trying to get the Pommel Jewel of Remornia, but having horrible luck.

So I’ve been offering people a WoW token for it. Not the actual WoW token, but the gold to buy it.

EG: Someone gets Remornia to drop. They agree.
They trade the pet to me, make a toon on my realm.
I bring them to the AH with a 2 person mount, give them the gold for a WoW token.

As far as I’m aware, this SHOULD be okay, as I’m literally trading them gold for a pet. But I’m not 100% sure because it’s obviously intended to buy a WoW token, which might constitute RMT?

I’m just wanting to make sure I’m safe.

To me, it’s awfully close to RMT. If you have to jump through hoops, I wouldn’t do it.

YEa, that’s what I’m worried about.

But at the same time, I’m only ever offering to trade gold for an in-game pet. It’s no different than buying gear off someone at the end of a run.

I just happen to have the gold amount “Set” to the market price for a WoW token.

How is it close to RMT, or jumping through hoops?

It’s trading in game gold for an in game item, which is allowed, but not supported. There’s no guarantee they’ll buy the WoW token after they receive the gold, and whatever they choose to do with the gold is entirely up to them, although it wouldn’t make much sense to purchase anything else from a level 1 on a foreign realm.

I assume the OP is raiding cross realm, which means they can’t trade gold to the person with the pet, so they’d have to make a character on the OP’s realm to receive the gold. I also assume they’re offering to bring the other player to the AH on a 2 person mount, because the created character would start off in a different zone, and it would just be faster to meet them and fly them back to the AH instead of waiting for them to run on foot (or with the heirloom mount).

It wouldn’t be much different than someone who sells a run for gold, then purchases a WoW token with that gold. It’s still trading an in game service/item for in game gold.

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If your offering gold for a ingame item then you should be fine. Even if the amount equals the amount needed to buy a token!

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The item has real money reflection, I would be super leary about it.

As long as nothing goes outside the game, you should be fine, Maizou. As long as the gold is legitimately acquired either through the game or a token, shouldn’t be an issue.

RMT comes into the picture when real money starts being traded either for items, or gold, outside the token system.

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One major flaw is that the pet is not cageable, and the pommel is soulbound. So it would have to drop for you personally.

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I really REALLY hope the OP sees this comment! I’d hate for them to end up falling for a scam with someone totally willing to take their gold but can’t actually cage and trade the pet.

Nice catch Insolent :+1:

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Indeed. I took the question to be primarily about the permissibility of the transaction of the trade, not the trade itself.

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Thanks, I don’t post often, but I’ve been hanging out here since '07 or '08.

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I don’t think so.

Maizou is offering to buy a pet for a certain amount of gold. That amount just HAPPENS to be the amount to buy a token. (personally, I would have just left that part out. It wasn’t actually relevant)

This method just bypasses the AH, much like people advertising in Trade Chat.

I don’t see anything wrong with this.

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But wouldn’t the Pommel itself still have a trade timer?

I am able to trade items that teach battle pets to my party mates so long as they were eligible for loot.

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Exactly. The OP would have to be in the fight AND eligible for the loot for it to be able to be traded to them.

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I bet this falls into the category of untradable mounts like the hound in Antorus for example. I think it was Antorus raid? The 2 woof woof boss.

Anyway, ONLY because I did not see this mentioned at all, and this goes for scenarios such as this where of course everything IS tradable.

Make sure everything, and I mean every single detail, is discussed via in game chat. You agree to trade me X for the current market value of a token which is Y. You will create a level 1 toon on this realm Z and I will transport you to the AH via mount and trade you the gold to do with what you wish.

Leave the paper trail. Make it so obvious of a trail that there is no question the path it takes. To protect you and the seller.

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Well, of course there are outliers that don’t follow the normal trends. But I have seen it mentioned on Wowhead in the comments for the battle pet.

Granted, until I personally see it happen myself, I cannot unequivocally say it WILL be tradeable. I merely wanted to mention the possibility of it being tradeable.

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The pet is 100% not able to be caged or traded unfortunately

The Pommel has a trade timer like any other piece of gear.

And I’m referring to offering gold to people if it drops before they learn it.

Unless they changed it, it should be tradeable. Multiple people on the Warcraftpets discord were able to get it this way.

Unless I’m missing something, You’d still have to be a part of the group in order to qualify as someone the loot can be traded too though. And the way you’re looking to do it, I really, honestly, don’t think it would work.

That said, I’m happy to admit if I’m wrong, but I just don’t want you getting stung in the process if it can’t actually be done.

To safeguard yourself, make sure that if you choose to give this a shot, that everything is done through in-game chat (all agreements) and that when you’re ready to exchange gold for an item, do it all in one trade window. If anything goes south, if they run off with your gold etc., Blizz will not return any lost gold.

They may choose to look into any possible scams, but this would be considered a 100% unsupported transaction.

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Yes, I offer at the end of LFR after Denathrius dies. :stuck_out_tongue:

Not sure if I gave off that I was planning to just buy the Pommel Jewel from someone who had it drop that I wasn’t there for, but that’s not the intent.

I would most likely try to find someone willing to trade the pet first. It might be harder, but feels safer on my end, as nothing would stop them from keeping the pet or “accidentally” learning it after buying a wow token with the gold I gave them.