I kind of have to agree with Frosstfire’s estimation though. I realize it’s an opinion, and my opinion is aligning with theirs. But see my above post for the reasons I have that opinion, and Frosstfire may have similar reasons for their opinion. You too have an opinion that it won’t be out in a months time. I look forward to seeing who’s opinion is right in a month’s time.
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Based on what evidence…
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The problem with that is SWP would only last 2~ months as the endgame. That’s a hugely rushed P5.
We already know P5 is being rushed though. They started rushing with P4. And to be perfectly honest, I don’t mind them rushing P5. I would rather play wrath than TBC.
How long do we really need to farm six boss’s really? I mean sure, original TBC, we needed more time, because we hadn’t min maxed the game. A small percentage of the player base cleared sunwell while it was current in original TBC. Nowadays, you can join a GDKP and get carried through sunwell, and a large number of guilds have it on farm. Does it really need to remain farm content of six boss’s, done in less than three hours for the next several months?
No one cares if they rush P5. TBC is dying.
too true. As soon as they announced fresh servers, it started becoming a problem to fill raid rosters every week. TBC was already the wrath waiting room, and then announcing fresh servers, made the people who like the idea of it, decide to take a break and get some fresh air before going hard on fresh servers.
To be fair, P4 was just ZA. It was a side raid. ZG released pretty quickly after BWL did in Classic, but then it lasted a fair bit longer even with BWL being on farm by a lot of guilds already.
Ask the people who still haven’t killed KJ.
2 months wouldn’t be terrible. I don’t mind if it releases faster, but that is an absurdly fast release window. The final phase of Classic lasted 7 months - that’s a lot longer and definitely way too long, but going from 7 months to two is… absurd.
Well, nice, “OPINION”.
Yeah and lots of people share it as evidenced by the guy who literally just agreed with it above you.
One other person agreeing with you doesn’t validate your statement of, “No one cares”. I certainly care, and I know many in my guild do.
I imagine the people still trying to clear it care too.
The majority doesn’t care, which is the point. Not that every single person doesn’t care.
It’s sad I have to explain this to you.
Prove it then.
It’s easy. Just ask around man.
You mean like asking my guild, many of whom are fine waiting for a while longer so we can get more SWP clears and also prep for the gold needed?
No I mean ask other people that you don’t normally talk to. You probably only talk to people who agree with you so it is a bad sample.
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Considering that the Joyous Journeys event is a Summer event, Wrath Classic will launch when it’s over, and we’ll have at least 2 weeks of pre-patch, that seems like a pretty good prediction.
You’re the one claiming that, “no one cares” if P5 is rushed. I’ve said that in my experience, that just isn’t true at all.
Big difference between classic end phase and tbc end phase though. End of Classic, raid had many boss’s. Gear from that raid, remained amazing until first raid of new expansion.
TBC End raid, is six boss’s, is a fast clear, and none of the gear lasts even to max level. Maybe one piece for a couple of classes has something comparable in sunwell that they could get from a heroic in wrath. There isn’t a point to continue running sunwell with how much better the gear from reg/heroic dungeons are in wrath. For example, my character, can still use the chest from sunwell. That’s it. And there is another chest that is comparable to it out of rep with ebonblade.
Just ask around if you want to know. It isn’t hard.
A number of Sunwell pieces are still very strong up until the very best pre-raid BiS, though some pieces are still pre-raid BiS too. I believe Warlocks? P1 BiS may be the Calamity pants from Brutallus - they’re testing it.
It’s a fast clear if your raid is really good. As evidenced by the amount of multi-raid nights required by some guilds still, and many guilds still not fully clearing it, it’s a bit of a different experience.
We’re in a lucky position we can clear it in one raid night, but still.
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Blizzard isn’t basing their release of Wrath on if your friends have BIS or not. Nice try though.