I’m not asking for hc classic+, BUT it’d be cool to have hc option on classic +.
I’m suggesting for changes to things in the game that have no use, like Nelf whisp passive to be turned into something useful, neutural or not exist.
And when it comes to SF servers, we need ways to craft professions without needing things from other professions. It might be fun to fish some leather for engineering but I can’t fish potions for leatherworking. There’s many options to fix this such as, removing them, making them drops or adding a vendor. My favorite option is to add a vendor with these items but they can only be used for crafting, they can’t actually be used as consumables for their buffs. we can use gold or we can farm special profession vendor currency by farming or by selling crafted items to vendors.
I’ve been asking for these for years, but now that i’m in a guild that’s trying to do ONLY SF for the ENTIRE run of all content, it’s becoming frustratingly obvious this change NEEDS to happen.
SF is the superior way to play the game in all ways. sf allows grouping so chill “it’s an mmo” people. It’s very depressing going years without proper changes that make it more viable. Things like guild sf where you can only join guilds from level 1 but you can trade only your guild mates or group sf ( duo, trio etc ) where you can do sf runs with your friends and trade gear you find to only each other.
like. if you want to hire me for free, i’ll do this for you.
Playing solo (SF) is not the best way to play the game, it’s not meant to be either. If any changes are made it should be to make professions even more reliant on each other not less, forcing people to work with others.
It is the best way. It’s not meant to be because they didn’t know about stuff like sf when the game was originally made. There are many many things that are much better than the original that even make them irrelevant. like people that buy electric vehicles now and will never go back to fossil fuels. those people people need changes to make driving them more viable. that doesn’t take away from people that want to drive normal cars, right? - i just got done with a mentally draining hc dungeon. but i think this makes sense
In SF mode it makes no sense to make it more reliant on other people. huh?
This isn’t a solo game, if you want to play SF, thats fine, but don’t expect them to dumb the game down more, and make it super easy. I mean I have a few SF alts and crafting is just fine., they don’t need to retailize it.
One of the good things about classic was that it actually required other people to do things, one of those things was crafting. This was a positive, the only negative is they didn’t take it far enough and it really only effects a small portion of the crafting recipes and honestly not enough of them, and to many professions can be done solo, if anything that should be fixed. Also it does take a way from the game to force it into a single player mode where anyone can simply do anything by themselves.
everything you say is pointless. I kindly ask you to leave the discussion. You are clearly very reliant on other players, and that’s kind of sad. You’re coming off as emotional and close minded.
“mmo” doesn’t have to be reliant on other players. I’d prefer completely SSF but you don’t see my emotions getting the best of me here.
if they can make sod, I think they can make some small changes that make 100% sf runs viable ( all raid content sf and completely sf servers ).
IDK what you’re talking about but just looking at leather working and blacksmithing you need alchemy items and more to craft. we’ve thought of ways to get pre bis gear and enchant that so we can have flasks still in raids but when we get new gear, we’re not enchanting that.
I don’t want retail classic, that’s why i don’t play sod and quit cata after a few days. Just blatantly obviously needed tweaks that make things viable. if you get trigged because of this, seek help. you’re clearly stuck on relying on other people carrying you and feeding you mats.
again. this game is infinitely better as sf. It’s even better as ssf, but i’m not going to push for that, yet.
edit: ssf path of exile is an mmo and you only see other players in town with no interaction or grouping with them. 'MMO" just means there’s a lot of people playing it and it’s online. the multi player can mean anything, like the towns in poe. other than that i don’t want to see other players.
I could be mistaken, but afaik, SF just means not equipping items you didn’t get on your own. So you could still run instances or do quests with friends, guildies, etc. You just can’t enchant your gear if you don’t learn enchanting yourself, or use any food/consumes that you don’t find or craft yourself.
I’ve played this way a lot, but never really thought it was worth giving a title to.
Sorry, perhaps if you’re looking for people to simply agree with your opinion, you should stay off forums. Forums are a place for discussion, its not simply a place for people to agree with everyone’s ideas, so again, if thats what your want your in the wrong place.
So in my opinion, this is classic, the whole point is to actually have to work for things and interact with others, and one of the best parts of it in my opinion is that forced interaction with other players and not just for dungeons and raids, I don’t really count leveling as thats already stupidly easy to level even as SF. So no Blizzard should not simplify the game to cater to a few people who want to turn it into a solo journey.
Also as I stated, I actually want them to push harder in the other direction, for example, engineering helms and bombs could require blacksmithing or tailoring components, but at the same time make more of the recipes worthwhile, so yes I actually think your ideas detract from the game. Now obviously I don’t expect you to agree with this.
I also think a fresh HC server is a horrible idea as there isn’t even enough of a population for a single HC server right now. I would far rather see something actually new, like a free for all PvP server, now that would be fun.
I have stated MULTIPLE times i’m not talking about group content.
you’re the delusional one, replying with schizo nonsense with any bases on reality :D.
I’m talking about changes to things that are literally useless or anti hc. and when it comes to sf i’m talking about how i have recipes for items i’ll never be able to make on sf mode. Playing together has nothing to do with needing a potion or 50 arcanite bars from other players. like in poe they have trade and ssf modes. i can do EVERYTHING in ssf that I can do in trade. should absolutely be that way in sf wow.
I’m not reading any after “perhaps if you’re looking for people to simply agree with your opinion”
I posted on the forums as a way for blizzard to hopefully see it, since they’re not reading in game chat or my mind. ofc people like you are a side effect and I asked you to leave.
The forums are for players to discuss things amongst themselves. That is it. The entire extent of the thing. Like a creepy old guy Blizzard is quite happy to listen in on these private conversations about itself, but to think that you are actually communicating with Blizzard is simply proposterous and far more of a fantasy than a magical world of elves and orcs
I really want to play SF, but please make it as easy as possible by both having multiple expansions worth of abilities that make my class exponentially easier to kill things and survive and let me play with every profession I would need without actually having those professions.
The Classic + abilities I get. The “let me get everything I need without actually doing the equatable work for them” defeats the point of self found.
This is who you agree with. Yes. You do want that, and this is just assuming you arent the same person on a different character, since your name is just a throwaway name on a level 25.
You don’t want self found or Solo self found. You just want classic + hc after how much easier it made to level, but you want it even easier by being able to get consumes and likely gear from professions you don’t have because you don’t want to put the time and gold into it, when the whole point of SF is you do it yourself.
It can’t, especially in a 1.12 client. Vanilla wow was designed that even quest mobs can be too hard for one person, & are specifically notated as such in the quest details.
While we are at it, don’t play with quest addons or 3rd party sites. Go self found completely since you want it so bad.
whole point of SF is to make things more challenging yes, some professions are going to be limited by SF, but that’s okay.
this limitation even opens up a whole new way to play, by doing a profession just to craft certain items, followed by dropping it and leveling up a new profession that uses those items. lots of people are doing that in the low levels with skinning. get a bunch of light leather then drop it.
as for changing on death things like wisp, in theory that’s a good idea, but in practice the devs will just make something incredibly stupid and/or overpowered. so best to just leave it alone.
i didn’t know changing my character on my account would make it seem like i’m 2 different people since … i’m on the same account. i just changed it to the character i’m currently playing on in the new sf only raid attempting guild ( currently almost lvl 32 )
You’re on crack. You’re making some weird conclusions about what i’m saying and they sound like they’re based on something completely unrelated.
Please reread everything i’ve said on warriorgen and freshhcwhen - because i’ve literally said i want the opposite of that.
I LITERALLY said I don’t want retail classic or sod. I’m just saying we, in sf, should be able to farm gold or special currency to buy UNCONSUMABLE items from a vendor that are used in crafts. like imagine if you’re a leatherworker and you need some random as potion for no reason to make a level 35 item… and that potions recipe drop rate is .001% and you take alchemy enough to craft and farm for a year to find the pot recipe for a trainer lw recipe… instead i can sell a bunch of lw crafts to the vendor and eventually save up enough of that currency to buy what I need IN SF mode. otherwise just change that craft to not need it ( more boring ). or for sf players, make those regeants drop as non consumable.
In poe ssf you can do EVERYTHING you can in poe trade mode. why not here. it’s a game mode that’s as or more popular than non sf hc. the game wasn’t made to be sf but that literally means nothing in the context of anything ever.
IDK what it is about wow players in game chat or on these forums that makes you so aggressive/hostile, close minded, ignorant to what others are saying. like i said you’re hallucinating a different reality and not creating responses to what was actually said.
When i get to raiding on the SF guild i’m going to have to make a decision. alchemy or enchanting , i can level enchanting and enchant all my prebis gear and take alchemy to survive and dps better or i can do alchemy and save up as many pots in my VERY limited space and enchant my new raid bis gear.
I personally would like for a version where you can get more than 2 main profs on sf. Like you said sf opens up new ways of playing. so open them up. but i’m not really asking or expecting anything. I just put this here hoping that maybe they’ll see it and consider it for… anything they do in the future of wow.
I think SF is classic + i don’t think we need sod trash. I think we need classic -. but some changes would be needed to make that possible. I’d even go as far as to say our own private layers for each person, full fable 3 mode, except for dungeons, raids, world bosses and grouping for quests, duos and trios.
I could probably just be making my own game instead of responding to people that can’t understand very simple things.
Its so not surprising that now your also advocating for having all professions. If your playing SF, it means you have limits and have to make choices, thats why its fun, you want to kill all that make it easy, Honestly one of the few reasons to even play SF, is to try and do silly things like get the 0.5 set as SF, as it will take every profession, some which you would have to level up twice. That is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Also yes, I know you want me to go away because I disagree with you, but sorry what your wanting just makes a mockery of SF and ERA, so no.
yes, some professions are going to be limited by SF, but that’s okay.
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