how is leveling EVERY profession on each character… “easy”
leveling it twice is just dumb waste of life.
SF is fun because you do it yourself. i’ve been doing sf wow for 6 years. i dont’ need you telling ME what makes sf fun or easy. leveling just 1 profession even on trade is not easy. doing them all and in an order that makes sure you have what you need from one for the other still takes planning and time. SF is a game mode, not a challenge. just like HC is a game mode and not just a 1 life challenge. that’s why they had to make changes to the game for it to even be viable without griefing or dying from fp dismounts. lol
I didn’t make this post for losers like you to reply. this is my post and at this point, you’r harassing me with your nonsense. idc if you DISAGREE with me. but what you’re saying isn’t disagreeing. You’re just being rude and contrarian to waste people’s time.
This post was for a .01% chance of blizz seeing it and considering it. not from some deranged person that can’t open their 2 brain cells to grasp easy concepts and lash out because they cant.
why is any form of wow a social game? because you say so?
99% of my gameplay in the game is solo unless it’s mandatory for something like an elite quest or dungeon. and that’s only artificially making the game social when it could easily be tuned for solo play. which would be nice when you’re wasting time finding a group sometimes. loot should be personal too. rolling on loot is toxic.
I have mentioned Path of Exile. They have the exact same mode of the game in SSF and trade. you can do everything in SSF that you can in trade. Why not have it that way in classic wow sf mode.
if you don’t want to play sf mode, then go play fortnite or retail.
Having multiple professions makes the game easy, especially professions such as engineering which is already overpowered. Its kind of like saying well I want to play all classes but I only want to level up once, so I should get to be a rogue, warrior, mage and priest all at the same time and have all their abilities because I want to play SF. Also its not like leveling professions is really that challenging, perhaps a bit grindy at most, but thats classic.
Also how was anything I said rude to you? You’re the one thats lashing out and resorting to personal attacks. Either way, since Path of Exile seems to have the mode you want, perhaps you should play it, not try to turn WOW Classic into it, which many of us don’t want.
I also do have SF characters, as mentioned earlier, I see no reason to simplify the game, or make it so leveling professions is any easier, in fact like the way it is where it makes achieving things like having the 0.5 set more meaningful.
It didn’t. Your character’s name is a throwaway name. People on forums, historically since forums have been around especially game forums, don’t make names like yours, esp stuck at phase 1 level cap, without them being a throwaway character on the same account as the poster.
Since wow forums literally have no way of telling you whether someone’s character is the same account as the OP (unless its dumb names like Elrond and his 10 alts being Elrond[class]) and people in general on this game have evolved to be meme-y with names even when they are two different people, I’m not going to assume you and the OP are the same or two different people and have you try to do a gotcha.
Though since you walked right into my setup, I guess it doesn’t matter anyway, cause you tried, and failed, either way.
Not assumptions to quote you directly.
I did. It makes you look even worse when you try to make it look like you are two different people because not enough people are agreeing with you. It doesnt matter that you said you dont want it. That is literally what you want by saying what you said. Sorry you cant change reality to suit your viewpoint because it’s not like this is 2005 going into TBC and we don’t have 20 years of precedence for what wow turns into.
No one cares about other games. This isn’t other games. We already know wow cannot be like other games in hardcore mode in general because of the way the game is fundamentally set up originally (specifically to combat hardcore systems because people in 2004 wanted something hat wasnt too hardcore) It’s really not a stretch (clearly from SF and SSF that we have now) that the same is also true.
SSF means you do it yourself. Period. Wanting to add a bunch of handholding training wheels so you still get to do all the things SSF isn’t while being in SSF isn’t the play.
You got options for games that break what SSF is. Go play them.
Lol this can’t be a serious question. You have to be trolling. Go play single player console games. That’s what you clearly want.[quote=“Freshhcwhen-defias-pillager, post:22, topic:1954894”]
Why not have it that way in classic wow sf mode.
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Because this isn’t path of exile. It’s not the same thing, not the same genre, not even the same type of genre.
Professions werent created, maintained, or balanced for one character to have all of them. An entire revamp would be needed in the OPPOSITE direction for one character to have all of them and the game not be broken.
But you dont want that.
You want the broken state because, one could make the reasonable assumption, that you’re either someone who cant control their OCD ness with completing everything, or you just aren’t good enough to make it to 60 on your own but you still want the “accomplishment” to show regardless.
I mean why else would you want to eliminate what the mode entails to make it easier? If you can’t complete it, that’s okay. But stop trying to make it easier than it already is just because you might not be good enough.
As they say, rise to the level of the mode’s difficulty, stop lowering the mode’s difficulty to you.
I can’t wait until a SF guild finally starts to raid so someone can “accidentally” pull and kill everyone because 95% of the raid won’t have petri to counter griefers xD. Gonna be a great clip.
who are you to decide what a throwaway name is? I imagine you’re skin has melded with your chair based on your answers, response time and amount of responses. and the other guy that clearly sees you trolling other people a lot.
I don’t have “normal names” on my characters. they’re all weird. 99% of names are already taken.
I’m on this character on hc sf mode and lvl 52 so i changed my character to that. How is it throwaway name if i’m lvl 52 sf mode on hc?
If you want changes, play:
SoD (Seasonal)
Cata
Modern Retail
Future Classic+
But you can play HC on any of these servers however you want with all the changes y ou want yourself, right now, on Era by using the Hardcore Addon. Don’t like the addon? Change the addon.
You asking how your name isn’t a throw-away name is crazy.
Especially when you lie about your level
Especially when you think leveling is difficult.
It’s a throwaway name, majorily, because of its usage being primarily posting in threads your actual character posts in to make it seem like there is more interest than there actually is, like Elrond and his 9 alts that are trying desperately to keep the SoD GDKP topics alive despite those characters not actively being played.
Beyond that, this isn’t even worth responding to.
This type of brainrot response died out in the early 2000s.
I love torchlight 2 hc mode; there was a little community that used to pop in and out of your games even then; I loved it when someone jumped on server and dropped potions or gear on me.
I don’t want to play season of dog ish or retail like ( sod, cata )
HC mode is the biggest change to wow that’s ever happened. and they realize that sf mode is truly better and made the second biggest change in wow history, making sf an option.
You’re probably one of the losers that said they shouldn’t keep the version of hc we played for 5 + years in favor for the version they released where they spent more time on pvp than actual hc changes.
how about YOU leave hc alone? making SF viable by making it so you can craft everything you need is not as insane as low iq people are making it out to be.
I haven’t changed my character since op, except to update my level ( just reclicking my character portrait ) since it doesn’t automatically update. it keeps the same name. it’s not like i’m on an alt account. i just picked the character i’m playing to show as my avatar. you need to get a life and seek help.
I don’t think leveling is difficult but it is a time investment. I am just pointing out that I’m putting in the time that it takes to level, especially as an sf character in hc, as you’re bringing my integrity and auntenticity into question. and pointing out that i’m not just saying this stuff as some rando that doesn’t play the game , doesn’t enjoy the game and just wants change for the sake of change.
HC and SF are already changes. the game wasn’t made to be sf. sf isn’t meant to be just to be “harder” it’s not just an “accomplishment” . it’s a GAME MODE just like the hcssf addon was a GAMEMODE. it’s not malicious or insane to ask for certain changes that make the game VIABLE for sf mode. suggesting options is completely fine as well.
now i’m sure you’ll report me since it’s obvious the type of person you are, but i’m ignoring you (tho i’m sure half the users on here are also you ) and done with this post. i’ve made my points and hopefully blizzard agrees with some of them and we see them in the future in some form of classic, whether it’s + sf mode servers.
But it’s literally impossible for me to craft my gear at 60 as a completely sf player all because I need engineering items and need to be a near max engineer and leatherworker at the same time. which would be possible if I had unlimited storage but i don’t.
If they let us level up all the professions I could do it. It’s not like leveling up all the professions is something you do in 10 minutes. just one alone takes days or weeks. in an sf atmosphere where you can craft and find things on your own ( which is the point of sf) it makes perfect sense to be able to do these things. it makes NO SENSE to have such a reaction to the mere request of of this.
I’m currently following my guilds theory crafting on how to best get the most out of sf, by leveling some professions in certain orders, which is great but after I drop enchanting to enchant the VERY limited gear I can get even tho i’m putting in time to solo farm everything, I have to drop enchanting and for alchemy and then never enchant a new piece of gear again. that’s just effing stupid and limiting the best version of the game. if you can’t see this then you’re the problem and hate the game and your life.
You don’t need any crafted gear to get into raids.
Every class could get prebis from dungeons and be a useful member to their raid as SF.
Now the bigger issue, is when they petri you will likely die.
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Realize you are asking for very complex changes to the game (probably complex as adding hardcore servers themselves) - so that a few players who don’t know how to itemize and like to do professions - can do so in a ultra niche mode.
Imo it would be very bad to mess with vanilla for a non-issue like this - the change would make the game objectively worse.
So you’re saying they shouldn’t have added hc servers in the first place.
You’re saying that people that want to play sf, a mode they added to the game should play without professions?
idc if I can itemize without professions, I want to farm and craft my gear and use it. most of the people I see near endgame are sf players. the only reason people take off sf mode at 60 is because they pretty much have to. I’m in just one completely sf guild with hundreds of members.
that’s a strawman anyway. the number of players has no affect on if something should exist. I bet you were the same saying hc shouldn’t exist because no one would play. or vanilla shouldn’t exist. Sf could be 90% of players if they made 1 or 2 sf mode implementations. especially if the new servers are sf.
anyways. unless blizzard responds and asks for more clarification on how to implement these, i’m done responding to people.
